Are these all real?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Cyrrhus, Jan 8, 2016.

  1. Cyrrhus

    Cyrrhus Well-Known Member

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  3. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    They look pretty good at first glance, but there are some issues. Some of them look pressed (rather than cast or struck). Red flags are his previous private auctions, the terribly obvious fake artifacts, and why is he inserting the name of Lanz in some of his auctions? Stay away. Why do people bid? Well, some may be shill bids, others from newbies, others who honestly dont care or cant tell the difference one way or the other.
     
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  4. Cyrrhus

    Cyrrhus Well-Known Member

    I also saw a Seleucid coin from them it had bubbles on the top, I have asked them what is that as test answer old corrossion...yeah yeah...cast bubbles, but indeed they are nicely created but they offer all coins people want to have...that is always a sign of smell
     
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  5. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    Ken, most likely it is a fake and time really operates a group that inflates bet. This system I discovered 7 years ago, even at auction "Lanz" ... The Ebay is very dangerous to buy ....... I like buy 3 antique shops coins from the inheritance of their people who pokapatsya -80-90 70 years ago, archaeologists Asia
     
  6. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Honestly, I can't blame my seller anymore. At least I can have my money back or exchange, in case of a counterfeit ..
     
  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    "Unfortunately counterfeits are a fact of life when purchasing ancient coins. Were recommend that you educate yourself by browsing counterfeit coin articles online and to check seller reviews be fore purchasing coins. Purchase offshore, you roll the dice and have no recourse. "

    Is the above my bad attitude showing? Maybe but it is a quote from the bottom of one of those lots. Is he warning us about himself? He says he guarantees authenticity but he is right about having no recourse when buying things with a 14 day guarantee from a place that takes two months to transport. I see some coins here I might try to convince myself are good but I believe I am wrong on them and the whole bunch will serve me best by being part of my education and not part of my collection. Buy from someone you trust.
     
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  8. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    We need to buy a coin with a good pedigree or desirable minutes from the archeological site of the old collections or 70 years old that can be trusted. And all these auctions or Ebay - a bunch of crooks and swindlers. In the case of coin collecting is no presumption of innocence, your doubts about the authenticity of the coins should be interpreted as the existence of guilt on sale nasty fake!!!!!!!!!!:yack:
     
  9. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    you can return through ebay, within 2 month after purchase, for whatever reason, including but not limited to counterfeits. Ebay's policy is essentially that buyer gets covered 100%, even in the case the seller refuses to refund (for which he'll get banned, and ebay ban is identity ban, not IP or creditcard related) ebay/paypal will cover the buyer. They don't give a %*&(, whatever the amount, it's nothing compared to their revenue running the platform.
     
  10. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I'm a Star Trek geek, and make no apologies for it. Let's see what Senator Vreenak has to say on the subject.

     
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  11. paschka

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  12. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper


    So basically they have no morals and abuse their customers by getting fake accounts to bid up the price on the coins their customers are bidding on. That's almost as bad as selling fake coins. It's called fraud!
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    We regularly get into discussions here on what is fraud and what is just smart business practice. We allow buying low and selling high. We allow advising people to buy things we have for sale. We allow not talking people out of bidding ten times estimate in auction. We don't allow armed robbery. We invent terms like 'shill' bidding but condone bidding on your own lots in an auction. The unclear part is exactly where 'smart' turns into 'sleazy' and then into 'fraudulent'. The fact we do not all agree and abide on these boundaries opens lucrative employment opportunities for people who referee disagreements.
     
  14. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    Even if there ebey honest sellers, and they are selling genuine coins, and not artificially inflate the price to buy on the auction etom unique coin is not real, but rare where you can buy….
     
  15. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    So am I!
     
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  16. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    Those are just too good to be true.
     
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