Affordable scarcities....

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Mikey Zee, Jan 7, 2016.

  1. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    The term 'scarce' or 'rare' seems a bit overused these days---and what was once actually scarce or rare a few years ago, let alone decades ago, seem to be relatively plentiful now. But, these two coins grabbed my attention, successfully counter-offered for an attractive price and nicely complement what I already own.

    AE Sestertius of Trebonianus Gallus, 251 AD. Rome mint
    IMP CAES C VIBIVS TREBONIANVS GALLVS AVG
    Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    IVNONI MARTIALI SC
    C Juno seated in front of round distyle temple, peacock at her side
    RIC 110a C50; 19.48 grams, 29 mm (Scarce)
    Trebonianus sestertius and temple.jpg



    AE Follis of Fausta. Rome mint
    FLAV MAX FAVSTA AVG
    Draped bust right, her hair waved with bun at back, wearing pearl necklace.
    SPES REIPVBLICAE; R wreath P in exergue
    Fausta standing, looking left, holding two infants (?? Constantine II and Constantius II ??); 18 mm. 2.95 grams
    RIC VII 292 SRCV 3903 (Rare)
    fausta follis and two children in arms.jpg



    Please post any similar examples or any recently acquired 'scarce or rare' coins:)
     
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  3. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

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    Cr. 41/6e post-semilibral struck semis - extremely rare. Only a handful of dies know, only a handful of examples known and thought to be unique by Crawford. This is probably the lowest grade identifiable example of the type but the price was right and I might not see another one any time soon so I took it.

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    Cr 142/5 "Bull and MD" sextans. Sextantes from this time period are all fairly scarce. The scarcity of this type, even in this condition, is attested to by the fact that it was at one time or other in the Goodman, RBW and McCabe collections, all some of the best Republican bronze collections ever held in private hands. An interesting note: the flan is evidence of the two-piece molds used to cast flans of this period. The top and bottom were not perfectly aligned leading to the strangeness at the edges.
     
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  4. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    That's really cool!!!

    I don't think I have ever heard of that type before....
     
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  5. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Very nice, MZ!
     
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  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Both are wonderful, Mikey!
     
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  7. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Nice coins! I am writing this post on the train on my way to the FUN coin show. Hope to buy some affordable scarcities there for myself :happy:
     
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  8. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Beautiful coins all around. And yes, the message is an important one, rare doesn't always mean expensive.

    I have two coins also that would be considered rather scarce...my Phillip II Deultum dolphin and my particular variety of Caracalla Serapis denarius, with the lowered wreath. Both of them were about $75 each despite being "scarce", and in the case of the Phillip II with dolphin reverse, very scarce. I will post images of both later. I can't seem to be able to do that from my phone for some reason.
     
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  9. The second one looks a bit funny, it's probably just me.
     
  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    scarce or no, nice new coins MZ.

    TG is on my hit list, and i always like a nice fat sestertius...plus cool patina and a neat temple.
    the fausta with infants reverse is on my list as well. it looks like she's a bit... full figured...on your coin compared to some i've seen.
     
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  11. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    6th century countermarked early imperial bronzes are very scarce. There are an estimated 150-200 known. A cache or caches of 1st century bronzes were rediscovered around four and a half centuries later and thrown back into circulation in 6th century AD Ostrogothic Italy (and/or North Africa), but not before being revalued, the Asses to 42 nummi (XLII). Got it for a portion of what these usually go for.

    Domitian, Roman Empire (revalued under the Ostrogothic Kingdom)
    AE as/42 nummi
    Obv: CAESAR AVG F DOMITIAN COS II, laureate head left, countermark XLII (42) in left field
    Rev: VICTORIA AVGVST, Victory advancing right, standing on prow, holding wreath and palm branch, S-C across fields
    Mint: Rome (struck 73-74 AD; revalued 498-526 AD)
    Ref: RIC 677

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    This reverse type was probably the inspiration for the similar reverse type under King Theodahad for his folles:

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  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Hopefully, although I do have a return option....

    Here are two other examples from acsearch:
    fausta copy.jpg fausta copy 2.jpg
     
  13. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Love them VK !!!

    That has to be the inspiration for the King Theodahad reverse
     
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  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    My copies of Fausta
    Fausta 2.jpg Fausta.jpg
     
  15. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    Awesome coins, everyone!

    I'd love to get some affordable rarities at some point. The ones I have are all pretty common. I do have a blank flan, but I don't know if you could classify that as a coin.

    Anyway, thanks for sharing!

    Erin
     
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  16. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Your Fausta looks fine to me. The style is right at least.
     
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  17. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Ok, here are my $75 scarcities:

    Philip II Deultum Dolphin AE17_burned (2).jpg

    Phillip II AE from Deultum, with a cool morbidly obese dolphin on the reverse. Ty to find this one on V-coins and Ebay just to see how hard they are to come across. Not too many examples in the market from what I've been able to search.

    And of course, this Caracalla with Serapis. The variety type is scarce. The more common reverse features Serapis gesturing high above his head, while in this much scarcer version features Serapis holding a wreath low.

    Caracalla Serapis denarius.jpg
     
  18. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    The Ostrogothic kings (except perhaps Athalaric, but his mother Amalasuntha wanted him to be "Roman") looked to the early Roman imperial era and to highly regarded emperors like Augustus and Hadrian for inspiration, Theodoric especially; he sought to be the founder of a new and prosperous Italy, the protector of Roman life and culture.
     
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  19. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Excellent additions! I'd be happy with both of them.
     
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  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    We never can get across the fact of ancient coins. A Lincoln cent with mintage under a half a million is a great rarity. PCGS has slabbed over 2000 mint state 1909s VDB rarities (if I read their site correctly). An ancient defined as a great rarity could be defined as one where every known example could be held in one very small hand. The fact that an ancient is known from only one or a few copies means nothing unless that rarity is matched by demand for that type. Almost any specialist has at least one coin that may be the only surviving example exactly like that. I have shown a couple here and no one cares. It is now thought that the number of EID MAR denarii is about 100 in all grades. If we use that as a definition of a rare ancient (100 known), how many rare coin types are there? I don't know but consider 10,000 a reasonable guess. Yes, I pulled that number out of thin air. Give me a more reasonable guess based on scientific study. Someone must have written on this before.
     
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  21. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    This is surprisingly common with Republican bronze. There is also an interesting variant of this method where the flans for the asses of a series were cast using the two piece molds and the semises were cast using one half of the two piece mold along with a flat surface, leading to a flan of roughly half the weight and depth but the same diameter. The "SAFRA" as that I recently posted was also made in a two piece mold with slight flan separation but it's so slight that at first glance I think most might mistake it as a casting seam but upon closer inspection you see the separation.
     
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