1878cc Die break

Morgans don't have fs numbers. They are classified by vam attribution. We need full pics of the coin to help you out otherwise this thread is running in circles

 

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Send it to messydesk - John Baumgart - who posts here at CT. He has as much stature (and expertise) in the world of VAMs as anyone aside Leroy Van Allen.

 

Again thank you Dave, sounds like a plan all I need is contact information.

 

It's possible I mess something like I said retain chip and proof like a parent's not common in the 1878 CC. And as far as my investigation has turned up on the proof like coins most of them are in private collections and not available on the open market. I could not find even I photo but then again I'm not that computer savvy .

 

Huh? I don't think you're getting the point of a forum. You ask a question and get various answers. I have no clue what you're trying to attempt with this thread

 

Let me break it down and make it as simple as possible, my question was, number one. What information does any member have on the proof like appearance of the 1778 CC, number two. Does any member have information on the retained die chips on the 1878 CC. And I appreciate the members who have given me there various answers, sir what do I not understand about this forum?

 

Sorry, maybe I should have said that you need to be more direct with your questions instead of "don't know how it works" I must have replyed after I read a carr thread and was in a fightin' mood. Anyway, that is a direct question unfortunately I don't have the answer. @SuperDave or others might be able to point you in the right direction though.

Can we get full pics though if you are asking for a coin(s) you own please

 

1878-CC would be no different than any other Morgan issue with regard to PL and DMPL examples. It is reasonable to assume that every original die pair is able to strike at least PL coins for its' first few, until the original polished surface wears somewhat.

A large number of known varieties, including the VAM-2A here, have DMPL examples.

I've already discussed the chips on this coin; it is quite possible that there are examples with the "extra" chips which I'm unaware of. They're not mentioned on the VAMworld detail page, though, which I'd expect.

 

Dave thank you, that is why I'd like to submit this coin to the professionals for examination,

 

Dave have you come up with contact information for me. And

 

I'll ping messydesk for you, and ask him to have a look.

 

great i really appreciate that.

 

It occurs to me the FUN show is going on right now and he's undoubtedly stretched pretty thin this week. Let's wait a couple days. Honestly, I'd have expected to see him in this thread before this.

 

Again thank you Dave and it's hard not to totally agree with you.

 

I had completely forgotten about a really neat feature in this forum - tagging members. If I type @messydesk he gets a Notification that he's been mentioned in a thread with a link to my post, and he'll see this.

 

Yeah, nice forum feature in gerneral huh @SuperDave

 

Yeah, except I didn't get a notification from your tag.

 

Maybe because I double consonanted your name then quickly edited it?

 

Ha!

Old habits die hard, don't they?

 

I do like the way tagging someone sends a notification. First of all, the coin pictured is VAM 2A. The chip on the U in PLURIBUS looks like something stuck to the coin. I don't think it is part of the VAM 2A die. It could be a small planchet lamination or even a bit of glue stuck to the coin masquerading as a die chip. The standard advice given for something like this is to "poke it with a stick" and see if it comes off. My stick of choice is a green rose thorn, but a cactus spine will also do.

Regarding prooflike coins for 78-CC, they aren't particularly rare compared to many dates. Of the 27,356 78-CC graded by PCGS, 1,760 are PL and 418 DMPL. This information is freely available at the PCGS Population reports. Similar information is available from NGC as well.