When A Nice Coin Goes Bad...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by TJ1952, Jan 6, 2016.

  1. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    or when a nice coin is maliciously or intentionally defaced. I've had this 1909 VDB since I was a kid. I had it in a Whitman's folder for years. I probably found it in change, roll hunting or from my paper route...not sure. It would pain me every time I looked at it. Always wondering how, where, when or why this happened. I always thought someone made or used it for jewelry. The tiny holes seem very precise and accurate. Almost like they were made with a jewelers tool or drill bit on a drill press. Besides the holes, the penny itself looked in pretty good condition so I kept it. Just a little something I thought you might like to see.

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  3. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    I don't think the "like" button would be appropriate here.

    Where's the "dislike" button?
     
  4. mouse

    mouse Active Member

    :banghead:I hate when people to stuff like that to nice coins. I have a nice Columbian Expo. Half dollar that some dip carved there initials in.
     
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  5. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    At least it wasn't a 1909-S VDB! Actually, that one hole under the date could've taken out a mintmark...

    In all honesty if it was a 1909-S VDB I'd rather that hole below the date still be there so I wouldn't know any better.
     
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  6. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    If if not for the 1909 year, this could have been John Wilkes Booth's target practice piece.

    Too soon?
     
  7. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Maybe it was turned into a button?
     
  8. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Yep, sad to see.
     
  9. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    @Jwt708 Maybe it was turned into a button?

    Yes, both good points! :arghh:
     
  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Looks like a button to me. My grandma used to talk about how hard it was to get some of them. She used to have a big old case with older fancy buttons - just in case. And in 1909 they probably thought the same about a current penny like people think today - it is just a 2015 do what you want to it. It would be nice to know exactly when this was done.
     
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  11. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I'll bet that someone was planning to make a "cut-out" coin as a piece of pendant jewelry. I remember the first time I saw an artisan making a piece at a crafts show in Chincoteague, VA back in the early 70's. He was using a Mercury dime.

    They use a very small drill bit to make a hole in each part of the field, then they use a very, very fine coping saw blade to cut those parts of the field out. Afterward, they polish the rest of the coin.

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    Chris
     
  12. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Yes Chris- I guess if you can think of it.......it's been done. :arghh:
     
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  13. effigyjo

    effigyjo New Member

    Hello,

    This thread makes me think about all the beautiful coins I have found (some rare) that have been defaced by adding a pendent holder or the drilling of a hole. I have a wonderful 1800's gold coin with hole in it. Why do people do that? I know in some 12 step programs it is customary to put a hole in a silver dollar for every year of recovery. Not much there after 20+ years LOL. Anyway as an aside how do you grade these coins...especially since they may be the only one you ever get your hands on?
     
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  14. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    You don't. It's over, done, finished, kaput, stick a fork in it! Unless you make a piece of jewelry that's worth more then the coin!?!?
     
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  15. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    Nah, not too soon.

    It has been 150 years.
     
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  16. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Near as I can tell, those holes are a little over 1/32". That's some teenytiny drilling there, and if I had to drill a job like that I'd want to practice on something softer like a coin, too.
     
  17. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    When I read the title of the thread I was picturing in my mind something like this beautifully toned silver coin...the black sheep of my collection. ;)

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    Yeah, that was a nice penny. A real shame about the holes. I think you should still keep it. It is interesting, despite the "aftermarket modifications" :)
     
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  18. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    It's holy! Too bad when they do it to something rare. I recently had a pine tree shilling that was drilled. Also saw a nice toned au 1854-o seated half with a hole recent
     
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  19. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Ouch! :arghh:
     
  20. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    Just a button. There's likely 6 or 8 more of them out there somewhere.
     
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  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I hate to say it but from what I see on the reverse I think it is a SVDB.
     
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