ID Help - Carthage, with the inscription

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  1. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    Carthage This coin with an inscription to the right of the horse's muzzle. This is a rare coin? I find it on the internet but could not. Maybe bad looking. image-80.jpeg image-79.jpeg
     
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  3. paschka

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  6. paschka

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    http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1877203

    This is similar, but silver. On my two inscriptions, one in the form of squiggles and the other in the form of a semi-circular rows on rand coin. Samples with inscriptions I have not found unto this directory.
     
  7. paschka

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  8. ancientnut

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    The coin in your last post is not silver, but described as "AE"...bronze. I have seen several examples of your OP coin with different letters next to the horse. I don't think they are particularly scarce.
     
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  9. paschka

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    Thank you ancientnut, I understand you, the common "AE" bronze coin and various letters to the right of the horse its prevalence does not change.

    PS. Tragically for 2 rare coins, I buy 6 is not rare. Immediately, I often do not see that the coin is rare or not.:shame:
     
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  11. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    Stevex6,
    You have a good coin with a palm tree, I would say "delicious" Thank you for Referrals example.

    My hypothesis: the signs on the right of the face listened designated city where produced coin. But the city has long been unknown. So write in directories such as North Africa and Sicily and Iberia
     
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  12. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    I think the letter is Phoenician. It's an M ( Meem). I'm quite sure about that, especially that the other coins shown on ac.search have other Phoenician letters such as N ( Noon ) or even the famous Phoenician consonant ( Ayn ) which has a circular form like an O . Don't forget that the Phoenicians founded Carthage and that Tanit is Astarte. I believe that could be an interesting cultural debate.
     
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  13. paschka

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    Since we are talking about the Phoenician script, I put another sample suspected coin of Carthage. On her many letters Punic alphabet, so I think. Please help in the definition of a small Cartage coin image-82.jpeg image-81.jpeg
     
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  14. 7Calbrey

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    I think here we have numbers and not letters. I remember well that a similar coin had been posted before, and that Master Dougsmit interpreted all these figures.
     
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  15. dougsmit

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    Under the prow is a number - year date, I believe. I'm not fully comfortable with reading it without my books at hand. I have mine as year 115. Yours may be 112 but I may be missing a squiggle and be off.
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  16. paschka

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    Thank you Master Doug Smith!!!!! Only my coin depicts seems Tanit. This Carthage?
     
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  17. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Two super coins paschka, very nice!!:)
     
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  18. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    @paschka. Your last coin is not from Carthage. As you notice, above the prow there are 2 letters. To the right, we have the Phoenician letter " Alef ",that is the letter A. Alef is Alpha in Greek. They do resemble in form and pronunciation.
    The second letter above the prow, to the left, is the Phoenician letter " Recht", that is the letter R. It's the reverse form or retrograde of the Greek letter Rho. So, if we read from Right to Left above the prow, we have A R. They definitely stand for Arados, the prosperous Phoenician island on the Mediterranean Sea.
    The Phoenician language reads from Right to Left, just like all Semitic languages, namely Hebrew and Arabic ... So Arados and not Carthage.
     
  19. paschka

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  20. paschka

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    Punic 'M' before

    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1780444


    North Africa, Carthage Æ18.
    North Africa, Carthage Æ18. First Punic War. Sardinia, circa 264-241 BC. Wreathed head of Tanit left / Horse head right; Punic 'M' before. SNG Copenhagen 201. 4.47g, 18mm, 11h. Very Fine.
     
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