Ae of Agathokles, Kore, Butting Bull, Dolphins

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  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Agathokles. Tyrant of Syracuse. King of Sicily. A potter’s son with the blood of a soldier. Although he was defeated by the Carthiginians and had to settle for a peace treaty, he maintained rigorous control over the Greek cities of Syracuse. Machiavelli described him with a mixture of praise and disdain...

    It cannot be called prowess to kill fellow-citizens, to betray friends, to be treacherous, pitiless, irreligious. ... Still, if the courage of Agathocles in entering into and extricating himself from dangers be considered, together with his greatness of mind in enduring overcoming hardships, it cannot be seen why he should be esteemed less than the most notable captain. Nevertheless, his barbarous cruelty and inhumanity with infinite wickednesses do not permit him to be celebrated among the most excellent men. - The Prince, Chapter VIII

    Well, I suppose if we collected coins minted only by excellent men, we would have to throw out most of our collections. Here is Kore (Persephone, who Homer describes as the formidable, venerable, and majestic princess of the underworld) and a butting bull reverse with two dolphins. This coin has a stunning aquamarine patina...

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Beautiful coin, love the patina too.
     
  4. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    I like this cool coin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  5. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    That is one gorgeous coin :D
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Excellent men, eh? Well that should narrow down my Greek and Roman collection strategy considerably.

    Nice coin!
     
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  7. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    love that emerald green color, very nice JA!!:)
     
  8. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    That's definitely a nice coin and an excellent patina. Well scored indeed.
     
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  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Beautiful score, JA ... I agree that the green patina is awesome!!

    I have an example, but my version has a bunch o' colours instead of just green (kinda like
    Neapolitan ice-cream?)

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    Sicilia, Syracuse AE23
    317-295 B.C.
    Diameter: 22 x 23 mm
    Weight: 9.7 grams
    Obverse: head of Kore-Persephone left, wreathed with grain
    Reverse: bull butting left, dolphin and above, dolphin below
    Reference: SNG ANS 561-571
     
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  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I like those red/green/brown patinas as well. That one is great!
     
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  11. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Nice! :smuggrin:

    What's the dimensions?
     
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  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Medium-ish. 9.8g, 23mm, die axis 12h. The denomination is a hemilitron.
     
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  13. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Awesome patina on that hemilitron!
     
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  14. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    Congrats JA! One beautiful coin....
     
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  15. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Beautiful surfaces on this one and the centering and detail are quite pleasant Interesting expert from The Prince. I remember having to eat read that book in school.
     
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  16. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Owning both silver and bronze from Syracuse, I admit that I am a bit more partial to the bronze. I am still in wonder that coins created 2500 years ago are still so pleasing to the eye.
     
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  17. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    that green patina is "hot"!

    lovely coin from syracuse! i've noticed many of their bronze coins (including the two i own) have a little bump on the edge of the flan, on the OP coin it is at 1 o'clock on the obverse. what is that? is it a mini-casting sprue or something?
     
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  18. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Great coin with a wonderful patina!
     
  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Gosh @John Anthony I have been looking at / for these coins. He was the first King to take the war to the Carthage homeland! Well before Scipio defeated Hannibal at Zama. :)
     
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