However, I don't see much of a die crack in the middle of the coin going from east to west. I don't see much of a reference on this link: http://www.varietyvista.com/Variety Master Listings/jefferson rpms 1943.htm#_1943-P Your thoughts please. Tks.
1. Great photos! 2. It would be helpful if you directed me to which of the hundred RPM or whatever varieties you are focused on so I could give you a better opinion 3. I definitely see the die cracks; pretty cool!
Hmmmm, varieties. Okay, I'd love to!... and how would I do that? Is there a website with attached examples out there?
It seems we have some confusion. I meant did you have a specific one you found on this link: http://www.varietyvista.com/Variety Master Listings/jefferson rpms 1943.htm#_1943-P I see the die cracks you mentioned and think the coin looks cool and is a keeper. I'm not certain it's any sort of variety or anything besides the die cracks. Also, if you're ever in the need to look up varieties, this should help: https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-varieties/
No, I'm sorry. There "isn't" one in that link that I was referring to. It's still rather confusing to me. I'm still wrapped around the axle and trying to digest all the terms and acronyms, ie; UVC-060, LDS, EMDS, EDS, etc-etc... Thanks for the varieties link. Should I look through that link and try to match one to my coin?
No, your coin is not a variety, it is just a coin that was struck after the die started to crack from overuse. Were you looking for more information or just trying to figure out more about the coin and error?
Yes, more information is always better. Like when you say: the die starts to crack from overuse....I can picture that happening. I know the coin is in pretty good condition. I'm thinking maybe MS-63 or so. But yes, the so-called phenomenons, manifestations, anomalies or full blown errors always fascinated me. I guess I'm looking to find out if it's a common and uncommon error. I see a lot of cuds, die cracks, machine doubling, struck thru grease, etc...which seem to be very common. I'm looking at a lot of websites and examples of errors. I haven't seen die cracks going from North to South and East to West on one coin before....not that it doesn't exist. I just haven't seen a picture of one. What's your opinion of his one?
Uncommon but unsurprising. These are known common crack locations on Jeffersons - many issues have "characteristic" places of high stress in the die where they regularly crack - and it's interesting to see one started on the second bisection after the first is already complete. Die cracks are considered die states and not necessarily "collectible errors" on their own; they are recorded as pickup details for whatever die pair is being described as the "variety." Doesn't mean there aren't collectors out there who are drawn to them (raises hand), but more as an intellectual exercise than any value-added proposition. That's part of the complexity of numismatics. Special features and departures from the norm can be of any "quality" from near-irrelevant (MD) to huge importance (1955 Lincoln DDO).
SuperDave- Thanks for the no-going feedback and clarification. So it's a keeper. I'll refer back to it for future reference. At what threshold would you consider have an error coin graded? Have you ever had an error coin graded? If so, could I see a picture of it? I'm guessing the coin itself has to be worth more then the cost of grading.....duh! Although I have to tell you, this is strictly a hobby for me. I'm not a dealer or big time investor....as you can probably tell. If I had to make a living at this, I would starve. I see all these stinkin BS reality shows on TV. I wish there was one for coin collecting. I would watch that one! tj
It's a keeper, as I would keep it, but not worth getting slabbed/attributed since it would cost more to get it attributed than you could sell it for. I have a whole container dedicated to errors and "I think it's an error but I'm not sure so I'll put it here for now". The threshold is only an error that's incredibly significant, like a rare DDO or huge cud. Any error you find or think you found, ask on CoinTalk first and we'll set you straight. Here is one of my only slabbed error coins and probably one of my favorite. I apologize for the poor photography, this one was rushed but I still have it.
Very nice Indian Head! Thanks for sharing. Oh, glad to see ANACS. I hear good things about them with respect to grading errors. Do you agree?
I have never submitted any coin for grading to any company so I am no expert here. However, I understand ANACS to be the top variety/error attributor as well as generally the cheapest of the three major grading companies. Likely, those two go hand in hand.
There's also a die crack running through Jefferson head and hair. These are very common on War nickels . I posted an 42 S cracked N to S 12 to 6 not long ago. As far as the rpm goes just about every war nickel has one. The 43 P has 70 plus,some more others less . Variety vista.com you can down load the complete list for free.
@Seattlite86 @Paddy54 Update: I decided to have it graded. I was hoping it would come back with specifics on the cracks, ie; Obv. Head, Rev. N to S - E to W. Rather then just Die Crack! Oh well.
Sorry, I've been in transit. Unfortunately, that is what they do for errors. There are variety graders out there but I'm not familiar enough with them to give you any recommendations. At the end of the day, it's a nice coin and I think you should be happy with the grade and now that it is slabbed and protected
