Who knew IKE was a Greaser :-P

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Cascade, Dec 30, 2015.

  1. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    A new addition to my growing Ike family :)
    Paid $90. Whatcha think?

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  3. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Wow. An hour in and no chatting yet? Must be a busy day with everybody gettin ready to P-A-R-T-Y :headphone:
     
  4. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Ike? A greaser? o_O lol
    Nice one Cascade. ;)
     
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  5. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    Wow, another QC failure from the mint...must be worth millions!:rolleyes:
     
  6. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Haha.
    Boy is it a dead night or what
     
  7. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    I Like IKE
     
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    For $90 that is a good buy
     
  9. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I knew.

    He just didn't always grease up his Eagle.
    IKE 1971-D Filled Dies Obverse 03787837 PCGS MS60 Slab Obv.jpg

    IKE 1971-D Filled Dies Obverse 03787837 PCGS MS60 Slab Rev.jpg

    Sometime he did..........
    IKE 1971-D Filled Dies OR Full RE 142000764 PCGS AU58 Slab Obv.jpg

    IKE 1971-D Filled Dies OR Full RE 142000764 PCGS AU58 Slab Rev.jpg

    And sometimes he didn't............
    IKE 1972-D Obverse Filled Dies 13049826 PCGS MS62 Slab Obv.jpg

    IKE 1972-D Obverse Filled Dies 13049826 PCGS MS62 Slab Rev.jpg
     
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  10. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I wonder how a grease fill can eliminate the center of a letter without affecting the top or bottom. Curious.
     
  11. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Now how did I know that you would be the one to pose the question I've been pocketing and waiting for dave. I keep looking at it and scratching my head trying to think what exactly filled the dies. But seeing Lee's examples I guess that's just how grease acts on the recesses of an ike die?
     
  12. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    It's more than just grease folks. It's machine oil and debris from the minting process. It accumulates kind of like sticky mud on the bottom of your shoes with the big exception being that the die squashes it at 120 tons or pressure instead of 170 lbs.

    It can flow in literally any direction since not all planchets sit in the coining chamber exactly perpendicular to the dies. Not all planchets are of the same thickness.

    Just way too many variables involved here.
     
  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    When metal flows like liquid, something that is partly liquid will flow even more easily.
     
  14. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Right.

    With the exception of the fact that "grease" is a relative term since we know that the stuff which fills dies has been compacted enough times and with enough force to actually make impression on coins.

    For example, "dropped Letters" are not really dropped letter as much as they are this "stuff" which has filled a dies letters and then broken free thereby creating in impression of a letter on a coin.

    Terminology within numismatics should not be taken literally without some understanding of the forces and processes which occur during the minting process.
     
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  15. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    I found a dropped letter quarter and I can tell you it must have a lot of pressure and be compacted a huge amount to be forced into the coin to leave an impression. I wonder if anyone noticed any of the quarters (in the wild) before it dropped out, because they would either have the lightest mintmark present or have it seem like it had no mintmark.
     
  16. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Dropped letters are plainly at one end of the viscosity range when evaluating Mint Crud. My question is, is there a point in the viscosity range where the crud is firm enough to not be distorted under 150 tons of pressure, yet viscous enough to flow into devices?

    That just doesn't work for me. Not that I have a better idea.
     
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