ID help. Some type of Coin, Token, Exonumia?....Not a Clue.

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  1. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

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    Birmingham
    Edinburgh
    London
    Sheffield
    Assay Office Mark (Compulsory marks)
     
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  3. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Jeezzzzz, could there be anymore markings on these things?? So I guess all these marking must certify the sterling silver that it's genuine or where it comes from. Something like NGC or PCGS certifying coins except it looks like it's the British Gov't certifying it. Appreciate all your feedback on this!
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Ok here's what we know ...... [​IMG]
    Birmingham
    Edinburgh
    London
    Sheffield
    Assay Office Mark (Compulsory marks)


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    The C is an assayers mark and the Queen represents

    Golden Jubilee Hallmark

    the C in the square stands for 2002
    VB is Vickers and Company
    and I'm still going with scale standards....... that's my finial answer. lol :)
     
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  5. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Thanks again!!
     
  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    due to the size and shape I'm about 100% certain that they are a scale standard. again we know they are sterling, there's no other logical answer,and if found I will stand corrected.
     
  7. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    So, "scale standard" meaning they use them to certify weight?
     
  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Correct
     
  9. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

  10. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Again, can't thank you enough!!
     
  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    NP my pleasure
     
  12. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Oh, you noticed that!?!? Yes I did. I'm still learning and playing around with different way to take the pictures.
     
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  13. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Imitation is the highest form of flattery (I think that was Iago on Aladdin). Anyway, that's what I used and it helps separate them without damaging them. Good call
     
  14. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

  15. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Great links! Thanks for that! This must be where paddy54 found the above information as well. I've been digesting all the acronyms, terms, phrases, letters, numbers and lingo on a few websites. If I'm understanding it correctly and I "might not" be, (in some cases) rather then the silversmith marking or damaging the sterling silver plate, vase, etc.. they would somehow attach these hallmark silver tabs to the bottom of the items. I haven't found any pictures of that.

    Thanks to all for digging into this with me!
     
  16. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    I've gone through this before. I generally pick up any sterling I find at auctions and estate sales if I can buy it for around melt value. It's always a hunt to figure out the older hallmarks, but it's fun and sometimes you are pleasantly surprised.

    Your next trip may be to the library though. Usually the ones easily found are for popular items.

    Good luck, and please promise to let us know if you do find out what these are.

    Can we ask where they came from?
     
  17. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I do understand what you are saying about being a tag on an item. However it don't make sense as if you had an silver vase. You would want it marked by the hallmarks showing it's . 925 made by a known silver smith. Rather run the risk of the hallmarks stamped on another tag like that could be removed and destroy any and all value to the vase.
    Now what I am referring to is this....there no doubt if you own a silver vase you know it's silver. Not stamped with the hallmarks no one knows the fineness, or maker. The difference between a scrap .925 spoon from an old silver service set, and a old scrap spoon made by Revere,could be tens of thousands of dollars in value.
    over the years I have seen hallmarks in all sizes, on all types of items. Snuff boxes, silver watch cases, tea pots, you name it.
    All were stamped into the item no matter size or value.
     
  18. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Yes, will do. I bookmarked this thread and I'll get back to you with any additional information I find. They were found in a box of random coins I bought several years ago. I thought they were some type of charm, until I pulled them out recently to check again.
     
  19. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Hmmmm, yes I completely understand your points. Your points make the most sense! I'm still pretty much wrapped around the axle on this. I wish I could find some pictures of these things out there. I'll keep you posted. Thanks for the ongoing feedback.
     
  20. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Np was just thinking the line from Pee wee Herman ....where Pee Wee asked the con on the run what he was in for? And he replies you know the tag on bedding that sez Do not remove under penalty of Law? "Well I took a knife and cut it off"! Gasp!!!!! :)
     
  21. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    LoL!! :happy: That's Funny!
     
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