Is this a double die peeking out on the 1908 Trade Dollar?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by iPen, Dec 27, 2015.

  1. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

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    To the left of the 8 on this Great Britain Trade Dollar, there appears to be a slight impression of an 8. It doesn't look to be MD. It's as if the die engraver accidentally lightly punched the 8 in the wrong spot, shifted to the right of the coin (left of the die), then finished the 8. It's not listed as a double die variety by NGC.
     
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  3. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I can see what you are talking about. Would you be able to provide a whole-coin shot? I'm not familiar with the minting process of GB so I wouldn't be qualified to talk on that potential error, I just think your coin is going to look very nice.
     
  4. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    I won't be able to for this coin for now... and I'm unable to post any pictures at the moment since my SD card is fried.
     
  5. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Looks like a re-cut/re-punched digit, not a doubled die.
     
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  6. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I agree :)
     
  7. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I agree. Possible 1908/8, but not a doubled die. You would see doubling on all the digits to the same extent as on the 8 if it were a doubled die.
     
  8. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    So it could be an unreported / undiscovered 1908/8?
     
  9. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I do not believe it is a DD nor a repunched due to the shape, it appears to be die deterioration to me, even with the other numbers of the date.
     
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  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    The correct terminology is Doubled Die not Double -
    I want to share this webpage with you - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doubled_die
    quote - "Note that the proper terminology for this occurrence includes the letter 'd' at the end of the first word, hence "doubled die". The term "double die" without the first word ending in 'd' is not proper numismatic terminology." closed quote
     
  11. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Thanks, well noted.
     
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  12. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Come to think of it, "double die" would only make sense if there were two different dies used, like a doubled denomination coin.
     
  13. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Wouldn't that mean a coin with the same denomination doubled. :vamp:

    ... this is such a green18-esque post
     
  14. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member


    I was thinking of this.

    Not sure how a newly minted dime ended up in the pool of penny planchets.
    [​IMG]
     
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  15. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Weirder things have happened :)
     
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