Beware of Fake World Key Dates Coins on Ebay !

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by kolyan760, Dec 26, 2015.

  1. kolyan760

    kolyan760 Well-Known Member

    fAKE s-l1600 (4).jpg 463433[/ATTACH] s-l1600 (5).jpg Original 20150417_161253-1.jpg 20150417_161248-1.jpg
     
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  3. kolyan760

    kolyan760 Well-Known Member

    Note "5" on Date
     
  4. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    My question is, how can one be assured that this is definitely a counterfeit, not an undocumented variety?
     
  5. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    I don't know world coinage at all, but both of the above coins are castings.

    I recently thought of the perfect punishment for counterfeiters . . . Deprive them of food and water until after they have ingested all of their fake coins.
     
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  6. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Were the real ones struck from treated dies?
     
  7. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    Even the one labeled "original" (in the NGC-?-holder)? I've collected a lot of Norwegian coins; the second one could have fooled me. Help me out, please, with what you are seeing, ToughCOINS.
    Steve
     
  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    While I don't see an obviously removed gate, I do see numerous raised pimples on the surface of the coin, which would correspond to lost medium in the casting process.
     
  9. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    The puppet Norwegian government (during the German occupation) used iron during the war years. Could that account for what you see as pitting?
     
  10. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    OP, do you have the one marked "original?" Is it in a TPG slab?
    Steve
     
  11. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Not sure about the first coin, but the second coin is struck. The iron coins struck during WWI and WWII in Norway are notorious for quality issues, such as die cracks, weakness, pimples (from tiny die chips), etc.
     
  12. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    There's no varieties. At this late date the dies all came from a master hub. Earlier on, the last digits of the date were added to the die individually, but this practice ended before the 1940's.
     
  13. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Kolyan, preaching to the choir here :) A link to the other thread where this coin was matched to a cheap modern fake would have been helpful.
     
  14. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Most "gates" are usually found on the edge of a cast. IMO the "pimples" are just brown oxidation on the surface that will brush
    off unless further treatment is called for.

    The Crude shape 5 is a good pick-up point. Thanks for the info.
     
  15. kolyan760

    kolyan760 Well-Known Member

    second one on the bottom is from my collection , and it is genuine con
     
  16. kolyan760

    kolyan760 Well-Known Member

    it is also weight 9.0 gr. even compare to original 6.9400g
     
  17. kolyan760

    kolyan760 Well-Known Member

    yes from my collection in NGC slab 100% original coin
     
  18. kolyan760

    kolyan760 Well-Known Member

    just got it today , fake 110% from 1st look
     
  19. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    Thank you for the education . . .
     
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