Rare & interesting Octavian quinarius

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Carthago, Dec 23, 2015.

  1. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    I just received this coin which isn't going to win any beauty contests. The picture is truly better than the experience in hand. I bought it, however, because it's interesting. And I think reasonably scarce.

    Crawford put this coin as a post Actium issue, but from what (little) I've read it appears that the preponderance of opinion puts it prior to the navel engagement of Naulochus in 36 BC where Octavian's fleets under the command of Agrippa finally put an end to the antics of Sextus Pompey around Sicily.

    An example was recently sold in the RBW leftovers through CNG (though not as nice). Looking through my old auction catalogues, you rarely see it in the plates. I'm thinking it's not easy to find nicer. Babelon priced it at 50 Franc, which was a tidy sum compared to other coins.

    Octavian. 36-35 BC. AR Quinarius. Uncertain mint. Galley with rowers sailing right / Victory advancing left, holding wreath, palm frond, and rudder. Babelon Julia 132 (50fr), RIC I (1st ed.) 9; CRI 315A; Sydenham 1339; BMCRR Africa 38; King 83; RSC 94.

    Octavian Quinarius CRI 315a Marcantia 2015.jpg
     
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  3. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I quite like it. To think an engraver had to work on such a small die and still was able to achieved something close to brilliance with that obverse.
     
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  4. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    That is a superb little coin. The detail is amazing.
     
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  5. Cyrrhus

    Cyrrhus Well-Known Member

    I have found from whom you got it..just by luck..I was not looking for it.....so that is costly small one, but very nice indeed.
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    If you don't care for the looks of it in hand, I will gladly make you an offer. I think all the devices on this coin are detailed enough to make it a wonderful addition.
     
  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That is very special in many ways. We rarely hear someone say their coin is less than its picture.
     
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  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Remarkable detail for a quinarius. Your idea of beauty contest winners is obviously different than mine.
     
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  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I LOVE it and have NO PROBLEM AT ALL with its condition.... the details are wonderful!!
     
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  10. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    Worth every sou for a piece of this beauty!Congrats on the find and best of luck next year....
     
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  11. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    It is a very special coin and hard to come buy. It has been missing from auctions of quite a few major collections. What a beauty! Congratulations!
     
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  12. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    Thank you so much for the kind words, everyone. I was probably a bit too harsh on it, probably setting expectations for Volodya to roll out some pristine FDC example. :D

    Seriously, the picture does a nice job of bringing out the detail. My eyesight isn't the best anymore and trying to see the detail of small coins in hand isn't as easy as it used to be.

    Merry Christmas everyone.
     
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  13. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    An interesting and rare quinarius. And I agree with others on it being "reasonnably nicely preserved" :)

    Q
     
  14. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Than he might need to view his coin in a better light, eh?
     
  15. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Carthago, your quinarius is in King, Roman Quinarii (2007), as Republic 83, with only 3 examples, and the illustrated example, example c, is worse than yours. For many other Republican quinarii types she lists 20 or so published examples, so yours is rare.
     
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  16. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    Cool! Thanks, V!
     
  17. Volodya

    Volodya Junior Member

    Heh. This coin was pointed out to me when it was first offered. I noted that since Crawford considered the type post-Actium and didn't include it (although he most likely SHOULD have), it isn't something I need to include in my Crawford-based collection either. So no example, FDC or otherwise. It's a desirable coin though, reasonably priced. Enjoy it!

    Happy Holidays veryone!
     
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