A Rare Altered Die

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  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    In late summer 92 AD an issue of denarii were struck for Domitian with an exceedingly rare dating combination of TR P XI and IMP XXII. A few dies with IMP XXI were altered with an additional 'I', which can be seen here squeezed before COS on the reverse. Perhaps word of the new imperial acclamation reached the mint the same day this coin was struck. The acclamation was likely awarded for victories against the Suebi and Sarmatians near the close of the campaigning season. The issue could not have been minted after September 14th when Domitian became TR P XII.

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    Domitian
    AR Denarius
    Rome mint, 92 AD
    RIC 735 (R2), BMC - , RSC -
    Obv: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P XI; Head of Domitian, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: IMP XXII COS XVI CENS P P P; Minerva adv r., with spear and shield (M1)

    Please post your altered dies!
     
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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It's fascinating to imagine that such a small detail could actually narrow the date of mintage down to a particular day!
     
  4. David Atherton

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    Also what is really interesting is the fact the mint master had the reverse die reengraved instead of producing a brand new die. Perhaps news of the new salutation reached the mint in the middle of the day and they immediately began striking the new IMP number and had no time to engrave new dies.
     
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  5. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    that's interesting V70, pretty easy to figure out which element was added last minute when you know to look for one.

    i don't think i have any alter die coin.
     
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  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I'm sure experienced ancient engravers made quick work of their dies, but even so, it would have been a tedious process. One simply wouldn't toss out a die that was finished and ready to use, if a minor alteration could update it.

    It should also be mentioned that the OP coin is lovely, even without the added interest in the inscription.
     
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  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    A subject I am still investigating is the recutting of one particular Septimius Emesa die used to strike my favorite coin. It appears that the first cut used C for S in SEP SEV but they were altered. I am not sure if the on I have that looks like a C is before the alteration or a sign of die wear that erased the change. The coins below are die links. I believe there was work on the die between them.
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  8. David Atherton

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    I agree Doug. It looks like a case of die alteration to my eyes too.
     
  9. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Another terrific addition David. Congrats and the best of the season to you and yours.
     
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  10. David Atherton

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    Thank you and Happy Holidays to you as well!
     
  11. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I don't believe I have any of the 'altered' types, but I find yours fascinating 'V'

    Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to ALL!!!!
     
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  12. David Atherton

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    Thanks Mikey!

    All the best to you this Holiday Season.
     
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