1866 Indian Head Special?

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by frans ferdinand, Dec 19, 2015.

  1. dfraser

    dfraser Junior Member

    there is no evidence of whizzing. It seems like every picture posted draws some 'it has been cleaned comment'. Looks normal, strong die clash.
     
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  3. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Oh that's a nice one! The lighting unflattering, a little too much on the bright side.
     
  4. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    Die Clashes must align with the obverse I will attempt to send a photo of an Overlayed Obverse and Reverse Die. I did not take the photos they were made by Jason Cuvelier
     

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  5. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    I like the OP's coin. Agree there might have been some light cleaning. The die clashes and die crack are cool.
     
  6. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I don't think it's "whizzed" per se but it's unlikely anything but a brush wielded manually would end up looking like this. Hairlines are easy to hide (or miss) in digital photography; the fact we can't see them here in one set of pics doesn't mean they don't exist, and for that matter the coin could have been rubbed between two soft cloths afterward to (mostly) remove the hairlines.

    Interesting coin either way. I wouldn't refuse it just because it was cleaned. :)
     
  7. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    I have included two images which I just finished. The first image downloaded that Jason had made was in error. I felt this coin was whizzed because the Obverse Image is has a stepped area all the way around the Indian with that area also being very roughly done. Most of the Longacre Doubling is very roughly cut next to the lettering (Unlike Double Die Marking used by Longacre). As the indicator of harshly modified surface of this coin is not indicated with this image as may be seen if viewed in person. I am basing my thoughts on the Secondary Images running next to the Primary Surfaces. Also note the Reverse of this coin between 8:30 and 11:00 the unusual wear between the Oak Leafs and the Rim. Upon reviewing Snows Attributed Coins of 1866 I was unable find any these coins with a premium listed found for the Obverse Die Breaks or the Reverse Die Clashes extending inward from the inner Oak Leafs from 2:00 to 4:00, in my opinion these would have to be a Ribbon Feathers Die Clash although there were other areas that I could not identify as Die Clashes.

    Hopefully this will give Frans another prospective and encourage further involvement with the coin hobby (It a lot of fun). He will see many people will have different views of the same coin. Good Luck :)
     

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