It is possible to have a US coin thread that doesn't have arguments about grading?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Morgandude11, Dec 19, 2015.

  1. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Perhaps this is a rhetorical question, but it is possible to have a good, solid thread where grading doesn't become an incredibly hostile issue? We all know that people have diverging opinions of TPGs, and the grading skills of other individuals, but it is getting out of hand. Having been as guilty as anybody else in this area, I just wonder if we can get back to the appreciation of coins for the sake of the joy and the esthetics. Just wondering.
     
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  3. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    If everybody graded coins like I do, ie only my opinion of a coin I am interested in matters, that would be possible - otherwise forget about it happening. Frankly I couldn't give a rat's nasty about what someone in some stuffy underventilated office thinks of a coin.
     
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  4. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    Grading of coins requires one's opinion. How you respond to an opinion is a reflection of character. Do not be offended by an opinion if asked, it is just someone's best guess with their varying degree of professionalism and experience.
     
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  5. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Just discuss interpretations of a coin. It is not important to be right or wrong. The important thing is to have fun doing it -- and perhaps learn something.
     
  6. bender9876

    bender9876 Active Member

    No, I have long hoped I could get $1.00 for everytime I hear or read buy the coin not the holder
     
  7. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    It's very easy to do. Just don't make it competitive. I feel sometimes the discussion on grade leads more to the owner's skills as a grader than a subjective study of the coin. An undergraded coin will bring praise and an overgraded coin will bring shame without any mention of price. If the same price was paid for an under graded 63 or an overgraded 64, to me I see no difference. Because as we all know, the holder is not what we buy. So then once that aspect is removed, one can talk subjectively about the coin itself, and say things like "I probably would have graded it a 64". Then there is always personal preference. Some like toning, some like frost, some like bright white. Then there is budget. If we all could get any coin we want it would always be the top pop.

    I guess the best way to avoid arguments is to avoid speaking in absolutes. This is pretty true in any aspect of life, not just coins. When dealing with a study that is inherently subjective, speaking in absolutes will always be contradictory (see what I did there). But everyone has a choice to respond to something, so I could be better at responding to what I feel are dogmatic statements.

    But I am new to this, and my only problem is I see the beauty in all coins. Even the bagged up ones. But I am learning a great deal on this board and away from it and will heed the great advice of the members here. At the same time, just because I am new to this doesn't mean I don't have a head on my shoulders. Sometimes there may be what I refer to as "newbie bias".

    One final thing, we are giving opinions on photographs of coins. Some have DSLRs light boxes and circline bulbs, and some have iPhones and a desk lamp. Until you see it in hand, any discussion on grades should be taken with a grain of salt.

    But this is just my opinion, and I could have it all wrong. In that case, I will use this OP as a suggestion for things I can do better.
     
  8. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    No.

    Put 2 collectors and 1 coin on a desert island and you get 3 grades
     
  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I give this thread a grade of XF35.

    Chris;);););)
     
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  10. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    That is only because you like those "tarnished" Toned Morgans. lol :) :) :) :)
     
  11. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I don't want to make you cry, but I sold almost all of my Morgan collection.

    Chris:(
     
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  12. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    In reality there are only two grades that matter. One is the coin you own, the second being the one wish to own.
     
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  13. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    Chris, do you still have the Proof 1895 Morgan?
     
  14. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I never owned one. You must have me confused with one of the other members.

    Chris
     
  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa:arghh::arghh::arghh::arghh::arghh::arghh::arghh: You didn't sell the toners to me.
     
  16. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    Was just wondering since you said .
    but I sold almost all of my Morgan collection.
     
  17. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I thought it was, "The one you want to sell." and "The one you want to buy."

    Chris
     
  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Yes, it is possible, but not on CT! :)
     
  19. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    What did you expect? I didn't think you liked tarnished coins!

    Chris
     
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  20. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    You are right. Hate those tarnished coins!!!!

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  21. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    @Morgandude11

    As a rule, I don't like to advertise my intentions to friends. It is a different story if one of my friends approaches me about a particular coin beforehand.

    Chris
     
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