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Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Markus1959, Dec 9, 2015.

  1. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    I was considering buying this coin as I collect ancients with any type of birds on them. I haven't seen one like this before and was wondering if I could get your thoughts and any information on this coin. I can pick this coin up for 20$. Is it worth buying?


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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    +1
     
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  5. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I totally agree with TIF and Bing!!!!!
     
  6. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    OP: that is a Constantius II Phoenix. To give you an idea on price, I was able to acquire one in XF condition (as close to mint as one can get) with beautiful patina, no pitting, and no imperfections, for $32. They are not expensive in excellent condition. You can get a great example for around $30 or under.

    That coin was struck to celebrate the 1,100 anniversary of Rome. Is it worth getting one? Yes, but you can get a better example at that price, and for a little more you can get an excellent speciment
     
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  7. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    You like birds? Who would have guessed! LOL.
     
  8. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info - seems I'll be looking around for a better condition example! Thanks again!
    Oh Oh! My cover is blown!
     
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  9. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Agreed. I would do some more searching before your purchase. I see some nicer ones for around the same price. The one you are posting is a bit pitted, I would try to find a smoother one.
    Sorry, I couldn't resist the urge. :)
     
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  10. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Ok, here's mine!

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    CONSTANTIUS II (337-361 CE)
    ROMAN EMPIRE

    AE 3
    Constantinople Mint, (348-351 CE)
    DN CONSTANTIVS PF AVG pearl diademed, draped & cuirassed bust right
    FEL TEMP REPARATIO, radiate phoenix standing right on globe CONSA Below
    RIC 93, LRBC 2019 2.30g, 18.73mm
    Provenance: Purchased from John Anthony at Cointalk.com on 11/14/15

    FEL TEMP REPARATIO on the reverse roughly translates to "Happy days are here again." Quite a boast considering the best days of the Roman Empire had long passed.

     
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  11. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    How about a purchase from JA LTD, our favorite friendly Vender/CT member (at least, I believe this is the one I purchased from him LOL):
    Constantius II, Phoenix on Mound version:
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  12. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    That is fantastic - on a pile of rocks?

    I want to get the Phoenix on the world!
     
  13. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Well, what is the world but a pile of rocks LOL

    And to be more precise, the attribution(s) follow:

    AE-3 Siscia Mint
    DN CONSTAN TIVS PF AVG; diademed bust right.
    FEL TEMP REPARATIO; Phoenix radiate standing on rocky mound; epsilon SIS symbol 1
    RIC VIII, Siscia 240
     
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  14. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Yes, that Phoenix is on the rocks. Poor bird had a had a hard life. Fourth century Rome wasn't the greatest place in the world for the bird of fire and rebirth...not with an Empire beginning the final slide towards collapse. Don't let the "Happy days" slogan fool you, the Barbarians were just around the corner waiting to pounce on unsuspecting Roman citizens.
     
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  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    We have seen a tall phoenix on globe and a short one on rock pile. The short ones also come on globes which are large enough to show armillary sphere like markings. The first also points out that the coins come in the name of brother Constans as well.
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    Constantius II Nicomedia
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