1878 CC GTG

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  1. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    I thought I'd join in on the Friday guess the grade activities: IMG_2436.JPG IMG_2434.JPG
     
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  3. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Nice. My Guess MS 63
     
  4. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    My first impressions too.........
     
  5. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    You sir, are an impressive member.
     
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  6. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    VAM-2A, I think. Technical detail looks MS64 and very likely PL, but insufficient proof of the latter, of course. It's darn near impossible to prove via photography. If ANACS pops are any indication, you're in pretty rare air for the grade on this variety.
     
  7. bigjpst

    bigjpst Well-Known Member

  8. cfrenchfci

    cfrenchfci Member

    I'm learning and I've got a question about the reverse. The breast feathers almost look worn. Is it just a weak strike or is it more of a photo issue?
     
  9. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

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  11. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    Everyone got this one, but Dave gets the prize because he saw the nose booger.

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  12. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    That's not even the same coin is it? Where's the gash in the field in front of the eye?
     
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  13. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    Not sure if serious, but the "gash" is a hairline scratch that got lit up by the light. In the latter photo the light was coming from a different angle. Also, I just took a quick pic so you could see the grade. The other photos I try to get close up and as focused as possible to make grading accurate. Either that or my grand conspiracy to deceive the guys who guessed 63 ;)
     
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  14. COCollector

    COCollector Well-Known Member

    Maybe the red gash is a scratch in the slab. Or a reflection.

    Anyway, it looks like the same coin -- but a different picture. Notice there's more reddish background in the obv field.
     
  15. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    It was the first thing that stood out. Was really distracting. Only reason I guessed 63. I thought the reverse was definitely a 64 but when looking at the obverse my eye kept gravitating to that spot.
     
  16. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    That's the second reverse with the sunken breast but they changed the number of tail feathers to 7. It doesn't look like a 7/8.
     
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  17. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    That's a real beautiful Morgan. Nice date, mm and designation.
     
  18. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I saw that scrape. Was gonna call it a 63 and almost said 62
     
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  19. talkcoin

    talkcoin Well-Known Member

    Beautiful Coin!
     
  20. cfrenchfci

    cfrenchfci Member

    Thank you for clarifying. That makes sense.
     
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  21. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    So, which photo portrays the coin accurately? The first shows a coin with very prominent marks on the devices of the obverse. The second one is cleaner. Both show a proof like coin, but in the first one, the grade is no better than 63, due to one very obvious and two other less obvious but significant elongated bag marks. The second shows a 64PL coin. Nicks generally don't appear and disappear in the light--they are either there, or they aren't. I think the first picture probably got the actual surface of the coin more accurately, so I will say that you lucked out with a 64 grade. Nice coin, though--great strike and proof like surfaces. Good eye appeal, but from the first picture, which is closer in and more detailed--not a 64. The only other possibility would be a slab scratch, which would not show in diffuse light.
     
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