Ikes

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  1. Mr. Coin

    Mr. Coin Member

    My strong assumption was yes. Unless there's some reason not.
     
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  3. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    neither :smuggrin:

    And if I had known what I know now it would be that way. Gotta learn

    @Cascade the flogging would be for "cleaning" a coin, we're not supposed to do that right :cool:

    @19Lyds thanks for taking the time to weigh in...I leaded some stuff...much appreciated, and I agree with you regarding clad kings opinion.
     
  4. Tom Jefferson

    Tom Jefferson New Member

    An Ike Story: IMG_20151125_131016 (1002x1024).jpg IMG_20151125_131122 (1274x1280).jpg IMG_20151125_131016 (1002x1024).jpg IMG_20151125_131122 (1274x1280).jpg Last week my 88 year old mother-in-law asked my wife to "go to the bank and get me 10 silver dollars for me to give my grandkids for Christmas." Nice, naive request. Being the dutiful daughter, my wife goes to the bank and asks if they have any dollar coins and the teller says, yes we have some Eisenhower dollars that I'd like to get rid of. So my wife gets the 10 and comes home. Before they got to Grandma I asked to see them. They obviously came from somebody's collection that a family member just took to the bank. So the 10 included a couple of pretty high mint state 1974Ds and 1978s. But what really made me realize this came from somebody's stash was a two-headed 1971 (both sides pretty darned nice also). I know this is a "fun, manufactured" coin but man is it done well. So I asked if they had any more at the bank and she says yes. Next day, a trip to the bank and pick up the remaining 33. A mixed bag to be sure but a few more high MS 1978s and 74Ds. Upon examination I see that two of the 74Ds have the so-called "peg legs." So, ya just never know what a trip to the bank at Grandma's request will yield. Nobody's getting rich off this stash, but fun none-the-less. One of the 78s shown.
     
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  5. COCollector

    COCollector Well-Known Member

    I've had two 1973-S Silver Ikes stored for over 3 decades.

    In its original slab, even the proof has slight hazing (exaggerated with the lighting):

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    The toned & hazed Ike below was stored 30+ years in a plastic flip folder:

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    (Air-Tite capsule in these photos is a recent change.)

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    Has anyone ever seen a silver Ike that is not toned and not hazed? And you're certain its never been cleaned?
     
  6. COCollector

    COCollector Well-Known Member

    I have a 1972-S that's not toned & not hazed:

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    But it has what I believe are water spots (?):

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    Improper cleaning? Never buy sight unseen... at least it was cheap.
     
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  7. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    Pictures (in a mirror) or it never happend!
     
  8. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    My father buy lots of vaults from the mints .
    Last vault he bought came with a insert on toned silver coins and the mints say its from improper alloy mixtures ..
     
  9. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Everybody that collect Ikes, I always try to get more bang for my buck . Otherwise known as look for DDOs, DDRs, RPMs and Peg Legs ..
    http://www.ikedollardoubledie.com/
     
  10. Mr. Coin

    Mr. Coin Member

    Is it a fool's errand to sell this coin and try to re-buy without haze? Sounds like it.

    Also sounds like any coin outside a slab or ogp without haze has been cleaned.
     
  11. Tom Jefferson

    Tom Jefferson New Member

    bdunnse: Not sure why you doubted me on my post but ok IMG_0247.JPG . Photos of two-headed 71 Ike attached. I've read that these are apparently sold as "trick" coins...available on-line. I hear most are easy to detect but this one was very well done and virtually "seamless" where the two coins were merged. Cheers. Tom
     
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  12. CeJota13

    CeJota13 New Member

    Th 1971 Ike looks like a low level MS coin but looks very good. The second IKE looks like an Proof. But they do seem to be hazy. I don't think it is PVC damage but it does make the coins somewhat problem coins. They are still great coins though!
     
  13. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    I found my old pics of the one I cleaned the haze off of.

    Before

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    After

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  14. Mr. Coin

    Mr. Coin Member

    very impressive results. i presume you dabbed instead of rubbing? how easy did the haze come off? what kind of cloth did you use? microfiber?
     
  15. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Most marvelous my friend......:)
     
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  16. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    Sorta. At the time I had a very soft fabric that was rather plush. I took it and lightly swept it across the face of the coin. IIRC it came off rather easily. But as you can see in the pics I didn't get it all from around the date. I wish I'd have known this little trick
    ...but I was young in numismatic experience :)
     
  17. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

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  18. Mr. Coin

    Mr. Coin Member

    If limited to 2 seconds, would the coin still grade?
     
  19. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    I think that's a crap shoot still. If the grader could detect the slightest trace of something done to the coin then it would get a details grade I believe. Others can correct me if I'm wrong.

    You gotta remember these folks are good, and they have all the knowledge that you got here, they know these brown Ikes do this, so when they get one that is pristine I'm assuming its an automatic raised eyebrow.

    I'd let others weigh in tho, I don't have a ton of experience getting coins graded.
     
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  20. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    If done correctly you should be ok .
    Whats the difference if you send it to pcgs or anybody at that matter, for a couple of dollars they will clean them ....
     
  21. Mr. Coin

    Mr. Coin Member

    Here's what I don't understand. I can send my coins in to PCGS to be cleaned and graded for $25 a piece plus shipping and insurance. The value of those coins in PF69DCAM is less than that. So clearly buying them graded is a better option.

    But it begs the question of how there are so many graded modern coins. I realize grading fees are only $16. But factor in insurance and shipping and there is ZERO margin left on these things. Do people not like money? For recent moderns, I get that dealers spin the roulette wheel for 70s. Are they playing the same game here? Seems like a hard way to make a living.
     
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