Ancients => Christ & Virgin (G-Class)

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  1. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Well, this was the second coin that I scored last night ($37 US delivered) ...

    Sure, maybe the busts don't exactly have ample snouts, but overall I thought this was a pretty cool coin ...

    Oh, and it's nice and big (that's always a sweet added bonus, eh? => nice in-hand)


    Byzantine, Anonymous AE Follis Class G
    Date: 1068-1071 AD
    Diameter: 26.5 mm
    Weight: 10.2 grams
    Obverse: Bust of Christ facing
    Reverse: Facing bust of the Virgin, nimbate

    Byzantine Anonymous AE Follis Class G a.jpg Byzantine Anonymous AE Follis Class G b.jpg

    :rolleyes:

    I think it has nice eye-appeal, so I am very happy with both of last night's coin buys!

    Please feel free to Byzy-up and post any relevant types ... or irrelevant types (those are often a bit more interesting, eh?)

    Cheers, gang ... I hope that you're having yourselves a sweet Sunday afternoon (morning, night, etc)
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Oh, and my dude assured me that the "green blotches" are friendly and inactive
     
  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Well, I may as well start-off my own pile-on-thread, eh?

    Anonymous Folles, Basil II & Constantine VIII Æ26 (Class A3)
    Constantinople mint
    circa 1020-1028
    Diameter: 26 mm
    Weight: 7.04 grams
    Obverse: Facing bust of Christ Pantokrator
    Reverse: Legend in four lines; ornament above and below
    Reference: DOC A2.40; SB 1818

    Anonymous Folles basil II & Constantine VIII Krist.jpg
     
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  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Curious? ... what is the diff between Class-G and Class-A3?

    ... I merely buy the thingies!!


    ;)
     
  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

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  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Thanks for that article, John!

    Coincidentally, today I've been working on finally photographing and attributing a group of Byzantines purchased more than two years ago :oops:. There are several Christ folles in the mix and I'll post them all sometime today.
     
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  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    By the way, did you notice that the article is by our favorite "entrepreneurial" eBayer, Mr. HighRatingLowPrice?
     
  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Looks like I have a couple of Class G folles in that mixed lot.

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    Romanus IV, CE 1068-1071
    Class G anonymous follis, 29 x 24 mm, 5.0 gm
    Obv: IC-XC to left and right of bust of Christ, nimbate, facing, right hand raised, scroll in left, all within border of large dots
    Rev: MP-QV to left and right of Mary, nimbate, hands raised, all inside border of large dots
    Ref: SB 1867

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    Romanus IV, CE 1068-1071
    Class G anonymous follis, 27 mm, 7.6 gm
    Obv: IC-XC to left and right of bust of Christ, nimbate, facing, right hand raised, scroll in left, all within border of large dots
    Rev: MP-QV to left and right of Mary, nimbate, hands raised, all inside border of large dots
    Ref: SB 1867
     
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  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Yes. The dude actually knows his coins. I don't know why he insists on that ridiculous shtick - I've made him a few low-ball offers that he's actually accepted to my surprise. Does it actually work? Maybe on a few suckers. I'm sure he makes more money selling coins than I do - I've actually told some of my bidders to stop bidding because the coin wasn't worth that much, lol.
     
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  11. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sweet coins, TIF ...

    oh, and yes
    => thanks for that link, JA (very useful)
     
  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Well, I haven't posted Pizza-boy in a while, eh? ...

    => this was my very first
    Byzantine purchase ...

    Justinian I AE Follis
    Date: Year 32 (558-559 AD)
    Diameter: 30.7 mm
    Weight: 17.3 grams
    Obverse: Helmeted and cuirassed bust of Justinian I, holding globus cruciger and shield
    Reverse: Large M

    byza.jpg byzb.jpg
     
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  13. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Nice coins. I am pleased to see Byzantine copper. Those are very good for Class G folles. Here is one more:
    SB1867ClassGo35.jpg SB1867ClassGr35.jpg
     
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  14. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    And that is why I would buy from you before I buy from some shark on Ebay. One can make money selling things without having to gouge and rip off clients. Works for me... I did a will at a discount to a lady the other day and already she's sent me two new clients for wills. Between the three clients I've made far more money than if I had gouged the lady to the point she wouldn't want to recommended anyone else.
     
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  15. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Yup. Good karma.
     
  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Honest John

    :rolleyes:
     
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  17. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    My name's actually Fred.
     
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  18. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Terrific coins and great posts!!!
     
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  19. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Snouts...snouts...oh, that's what the M in MS stands for...Multiple Snouts
     
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  20. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    WOW, that one is exceptional for the type!
     
  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I don't have a G. Steve is always ahead of me. I know some here will never believe what I say but there is fun in these when they get really, well, Byzantine in the 'intricate' sense of the word. My offering is a class K on a Class J undertype.

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    Mary is on both G and K but the easy to spot difference is the large size pellets on K compared to the small dots on G. Note my coin has the full MP - ΘV legend albeit a bit garbled. Class J is distinguished by the large crescent under the cross seen here poking Mary in the head and the encircling series of rosettes made of a large pellet and small dots. One of these is shown at the top of the reverse as it is oriented here. The obverse shows legend XC from the right side from both parents. The large one at 3 o'clock (3H) is from the Type K while the XC from the J is rotated a quarter turn and runs down just above the middle large pellet at 6 o'clock. I have a plain Type J for comparison but I don't have a clear K all by itself. After you establish the locations of 'up' for the undertypes (obverse=3H; reverse=8H) you can start identifying other underparts like the Bible held by Christ from the undertype J but that is not well struck on my solo J.
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    Bad Steve! You make me want to fill out my Anonymous 'set' but that is not as simple as one of each letter. I show a K but I need a K that show more K and not so much J. Most of these were overstruck but some like my J are more clear on the last type struck. That means I need a J that shows undertype. They you can find coins struck on a less ordinary undertype (K on something before J) or that retains traces of more than one undertype. These coins are not pretty, high grade, expensive or anything coin collectors are suppose to value. They are just fun.
     
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