“Circulation” wear from sitting in a non-PVC flip

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by NorthKorea, Mar 11, 2023.

  1. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I had this UNC Lincoln that managed to circulate on my shelf over the years. :D image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Based on your comments, and because they are followed by the smiley, I'm not sure if you're being serious or facetious with your post. Or, if I'm completely misinterpreting your post.

    So for the sake of clarity can you please explain exactly what it is you're trying to say ?
     
  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    A coin can not wear sitting as you explained but it can easily tone. Any toning is not wear and does not affect the grade.
     
  5. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Noooo, a coin cannot get circulation wear if it does not circulate. That is contradictory.
     
  6. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Agreed, as long as "circulation wear" means being carried around loose in a pocket or purse.
    But in the old days (such as the pre-1860's) when coins were often stored in trays with sections, one for each coin, wear could (and often did) occur as the coins slid around.
    Hence the term "slider" often applied to AU-58 coins.
     
  7. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I suspect that is the point of the post....satire.
     
  8. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I just meant that the high points lost luster, which is the general definition of circulation for coins, isn’t it? I know it hasn’t circulated, but I’m near certain that it can’t be called uncirculated… so it’s circulated without circulating.
     
  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Luster will affect the overall grade of the coin but it has nothing to do with wear of the coin. The amount of wear remains the same.
     
  10. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    This is why it is import to correctly store a collection.
     
  11. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    You mean, storing my coins in SaFlips isn’t the way to go?
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That is correct. As long as a coin is capable of movement inside a flip, and all coins inside flips are capable of movement, or any other type of holder that allows it to slide around while inside that holder, wear can and will be imparted to that coin.

    And you've apparently proven that to yourself.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Now there may well be those who do not wish to call that "circulation" wear, but wear is wear, regardless of its cause or how it happened.
     
  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I completely agree but the OP clearly stated in the thread title SITTING and that implies no movement. That’s why I said what I did. :)
     
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  15. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I think many of us store our coins in Saflips, but that being said, where and how you store those are important. Coins, even those incased in a slab, are affected by humidity, so dry conditions are important too.
     
  16. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Appears to just have toned differently on the high points. The TPG's would usually call this MS-63.
     
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  17. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I guess I better slab all my coins, then. :D
     
  18. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Thanks Thad. Also, how are you doing? Are you still making PVC destroying elixir?
     
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  19. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    If it was not moved out of the flip, it did not circulate. It is still an uncirculated coin, unless it was circulated before it was placed in the flip. The definition of an uncirculated coin is one that has not been in circulation. Any other view of this fact is erroneous.
     
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  20. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    MS stands for mint state though, not uncirculated. Clearly you can have coins that are in mint state that have circulated. You can also have coins that are uncirculated yet are not in mint state. Uncirculated is not really a relevant term. There's no way to know for most coins unless you broke them out of a mint set yourself, and the term doesn't describe a state of preservation.
     
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  21. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Ohhh! I'm so confused. :arghh::hilarious:
    Seriously though, excellent explanation!! ;)
     
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