Ancient China's first commemorative coins..

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Loong Siew, Nov 20, 2015.

  1. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    China's First Commemorative Coin

    Warring States Period - Qi 齊 State.

    Six characters knife coin. In archaic script.

    With the Chinese Character Ri 日 (meaning sun) on its obverse.

    This coin, cast in the shape of a knife, was commissioned by Duke Xiang, who ruled the State of Qi from 283 to 265 BC. Xiang was enthroned at a time when the state had lost all its territory but two cities. After years of bitter battles under Xiang’s steady leadership, Qi retrieved all its lands including its capital city. In celebration of the victory, Qi minted a set of coins, which became the earliest commemorative coins in Chinese history. They are generally named according to the number of Chinese characters inscribed on their front surface – in threes, fours, fives and sixes.


    20151005_212909-1.jpg 20151005_212942.jpg
    20151005_212958-1.jpg
     
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. 4to2centBC

    4to2centBC Well-Known Member

    nice, are you able to read the script?

    BTW I keep wanting to ask you about your avatar. I am curious about it but don't see anywhere where you have described it
     
    Loong Siew likes this.
  4. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I am green with envy. What a beautiful coin...uhm knife...uhm knife coin. :)

    And from the Warring States period too. Awesome!
     
    Magnus Maximus and Loong Siew like this.
  5. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Thank you.. my avatar is another one of my top favorites. . It is not a coin but rather a silver medal issued by the Qing imperial government. Agriculture and commerce ministry 1st class..
     
    Alegandron likes this.
  6. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Thank you
     
  7. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Wikipedia has a lot less info on this ruler than you provided. If you have access to reputable sources, perhaps you should edit his wikipedia page and add this knife coin to the page while you are at it.
     
    harris498 and Loong Siew like this.
  8. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Fascinating!
     
    Loong Siew likes this.
  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    WOW !! That's so cool!!

    I've seen examples of them on auction from time to time but haven't purchased one as yet..

    What are the dimensions??? I have to assume they are relatively small...or are they??
     
    Loong Siew likes this.
  10. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    This coin is pretty interesting for the fact that 2 variants of the 6 characters exists..at least on auctions.. I have another where the characters were different. I need to check the dimensions again..

    As for the knives.. many variants exists.. even these Qing knives were distinguished by the number of characters.. the lesser characters are very high in demand but commands a lower premium than the 6 character ones. Hartill listed these at 5 which is very rare but not extremely rare.. at auctions check for the number of characters. . They make a difference
     
    Alegandron likes this.
  11. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    I actually copied and took the description from some auction sites which once had these listed.. I can't remember which but need to recheck. . Wikipedia is only a reasonable reference starting point.. but not entirely complete.. :)
     
  12. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    As
    As for size.. they are very big.. almost the size of a Swiss knife..
     
  13. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Very cool Loong, how big is that knife coin..:)
     
    Loong Siew likes this.
  14. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    150mm X 25mm. Approx 41.67g
     
  15. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    cool LS, i've seen ones like this...but not the "pointy" one in your other thread. i'd like to get one of these some day, they are on the list.
     
    Loong Siew likes this.
  16. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    All the best.. But there are also different versions of the flathead ones too... The most common are the Ming ( not dynasty) knives...
     
  17. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    if by "Commemorative" you meant having text the earliest chinese examples of those should be the short/fat type of bubi (shovel coin), predates knife coins by around 3 centuries. Metal shell coins predated those by another 5 centuries and there were a few with inscriptions I thought.

    Problem with Chinese coins is that they were all casts. Too hard to tell fakes and the Chinese didn't became good forgers just yesterday:nurse:
     
  18. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Think of it as an equivalent of a modern coin in commemorative of some event. Chinese coinage predates this by hundreds of years when taking into consideration proto-money like cowries.

    The text means in commemoration of the establishment of the Qi State. Not referring to the appearance of texts which definitely predates these by many many years
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page