Stop With the Domitians Already!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by David Atherton, Nov 17, 2015.

  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    ... I can hear a few of you saying. This should be the last nice one I post for a while.


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    Domitian

    AR Denarius
    Rome mint, 85 AD (fifth issue)
    RIC 344 (R2), BMC - , RSC 186
    Obv: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P V; Head of Domitian, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: IMP VIIII COS XI CENS POT P P; Minerva stg. l., with thunderbolt and spear; shield at her side (M3)

    An extremely rare denarius from the fifth issue of 85. Coined shortly after Domitian reduced the fineness of the denarius by 5% to the old Neronian level after having raised it in 82 to the Augustan standard. RIC cites Paris and Oxford with examples of this type.

    Struck on a large flan (21 mm!) in superb fine style.

    I recently missed out on an example Forvm had in their shop, but was pleasantly surprised when CNG offered this one at their last eAuction. Needless to say I pulled out all the stops to obtain it!
     
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  3. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Among all the positive things you mention about that Denarius......I will simply add that it is a gorgeous coin!!!

    Congrats 'V' !!!!
     
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  4. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    OK...no Domitians then...I'll see your lunatic Flavian Emperor and raise you a sexy Spanish Emperor.

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    OK, all kidding aside, that is one gorgeous coin. Domitian is high in my to-get list. I want to put together a set of at least one coin of each Emperor of the Flavian line and the 5 good Emperors that followed. So far I have only Trajan and Antoninus Pius. I'm thinking that the next one I try to get will be either Domitian or the old man himself, Vespasian.
     
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Opinion: Of the '5 good' emperors, the hard one is Marcus Aurelius. I see too many of his coins with second rate die cutting and uninteresting reverses. As you are shopping around, keep an eye out for nicely executed Aurelius coins. I believe his young issues as Caesar are better.
     
  6. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    what MZ said...another nice lookin' coin V70.
     
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  7. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Thanks for the tip dougsmit. Glad I found this forum. You guys are amazing and always full of helpful advise for an ancients newbie like me. :)
     
  8. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Nice pickup. My favorite Domitian that I own:

    Domitian, Roman Empire (revalued under the Ostrogothic Kingdom)
    AE as/42 nummi
    Obv: CAESAR AVG F DOMITIAN COS II, laureate head left, countermark XLII (42) in left field
    Rev: VICTORIA AVGVST, Victory advancing right, standing on prow, holding wreath and palm branch, S-C across fields
    Mint: Rome (struck 73-74 AD; revalued 498-526 AD)
    Ref: RIC 677

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    So you'll spam us with ugly ones until the next nice Domitian? That's not reassuring! :eek:
    :p
     
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  9. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    LOL! Perhaps an 'ugly' Vespasian tet will be next. ;)
     
  10. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Ya' got a thing for Domitian dontcha? :D That's an amazing coin Mr. David.
     
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  11. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Ever since I picked up a copy of Ian Carradice's Coinage and Finances in the Reign of Domitian I've had a soft spot for his coinage. One gets the impression Domitian really cared about his coins.
     
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    We might differ on who we each think was the ugliest Roman emperor but I suspect Galba, Vitellius and Vespasian would get more votes than any other threesome. Its not that Nero and Otho were all that handsome so it becomes obvious that qualifications for emperor in that time did not include being handsome.
     
  13. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    I completely agree with this assessment, and am still waiting for the "right" portrait of his myself. I've seen a couple truly stunning younger examples which I much prefer over the aged philosopher depiction. One could build an entire collection just on the varied portraits of emperors over time (the British Museum has several coins of Nero depicting his aging process).
     
  14. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Partly this is due to the hyper veristic style the Rome mint employed at the time, and also of course to genetics. We shall never really know how 'good' or 'bad' looking the emperors were in more stylised eras.
     
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