If someone found a wexler ddo coneca doesn't list would they want to see it?

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  1. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Here's coneca cherry-picker number for DDO-001 :
    1-O-II-C+VI; FS-01-1984D-101 (039)

    Here's coppercoins cross reference for coneca cherry-picker number :
    CONECA: 1-O-II+VI

    Here's wexler cross reference for coneca cherry-picker number :
    CONECA: 1-O-II+VI

    As you can see coppercoins & wexler match each other, but they don't match coneca one .
     
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  3. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Tommy, I took some new images for you on coneca DDO-001 . There's nothing to match them to, but lets get started .

    First is a image of the 10th column with the die crack A019 - 20151115_091549 (2).jpg
    next is the die crack on the 12th column A017 - 20151115_091215 (2).jpg

    next is a image of GOD

    A025 - 20151115_093928 (2).jpg

    last is a image of TRUST

    A022 - 20151115_093620 (2).jpg
    my coin is also a very late die state ( C ) ...
     
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  4. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    Rick, I gotta say your coin is not any of them....
    I have 2 different die's with strong doubling on the bust.
     
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  5. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Ya, I know . Theses error companies all have their own way of doing things, I guess .
     
  6. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    84d bust.jpg 84D-2igwt.jpg 84Ddie2-bust.jpg 84revmarker.jpg 1984DDO obv.jpg Here is another. I believe this is Coneca die #2. It also has a dot in the upper bay #10 that matches Coppercoins die #1
     
  7. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

  8. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    Both dies on Wexler's site have strong doubling on the bust. Too bad he doesn't show the date on die #2. If you look at the one they reference in the Cherrypickers guide it doesn't look like any of them ...lol
    I read that if Wexler, or Coppercoins, or Coneca gets a coin say a 1984D they will call it die one. When they get another they call it die #2, and so on. They don't collaborate with anyone else since they don't have their coin in hand.
     
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  9. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

  10. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    If someone has a cherry-picker guide, check who has the right description for this DDO ..
    Could be wexler and coppercoins, or coneca ?
     
  11. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    I have one...
    There is only a picture of the date and mint mark.
    The description reads "Doubling is evident on the date, with slight doubling on Liberty".
    It does not match any of the ones on Coppercoins site.
     
  12. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Funny, this isn't the only DDO where cross-references are wrong . Take a look at wexlers 1962, 42-46 for DDO
    http://www.doubleddie.com/307701.html

    It states its cross-reference for coppercoins is 20 .
    Nothing for coneca .

    So lets take a look on coppercoins site for the cross-reference.
    http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/dietype.php?date=1962&die_mint=p&die_type=do&page=0
    Its doesn't have any DOOs past 5 .

    Now lets go to Coneca site and see if maybe, there was a mistake made by wexler on which error company had the cross-reference with .

    Low in behold, there it is, coneca DDO-20 .
    http://varietyvista.com/Variety Master Listings/lincoln doubled dies 1961-1962.htm#_1962

    I'm just saying .............
     
  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    No? Here you go....

    http://coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1962&die_id=1962p1do020&die_state=mds

    If you look it up correctly, coppercoins lists 40 for 1962-P DDO (your link showed only PRs). Also, "42-46" on Wexler's are five different varieties, four of which he's not yet listed the info for, and not one single listing. The proper cross reference for coppercoins #20 is Wexler's WDDO-046.
     
  14. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Just more crazy stuff from the error companies .
    Wexler doesn't match coppercoins, but wexlers matches coneca and has no cross-reference from wexler for it ...
    Lol .............
     
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  15. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Ya, I think so and those images look nothing like coppercoins .
     
  16. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I just keep laughing .
    Coppercoin has no cross-reference for anybody on theirs ...
     
  17. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    So Rick is there someone you can call to straighten out this mess?
     
  18. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    I'm going to send all 3 dies to Mr. Ellis... Then I'll send them to ANACS... We will see what they say? If they can agree...
     
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  19. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I've already had talks with some of the people from coneca about theses kinds of issues .
    I was told that they've tried to get everybody on the same page, but egos are to high and will never get everybody on the same page .
     
  20. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I think you should do ok .
    Coneca has one with a doubled bust and if one them is new to Coneca listing, they will add it to their list ..
     
  21. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Tommy, here's a Morgan I'm getting ready to send to Leroy Van Allen for Diagnostic Studies .
    Its vam 21A, we just added theses full shot images to the site . Otherwise nothing but a double clash coming off of the neck was the only thing listed for vam 21A . 46.jpg 47.jpg Here's the link to this vam
    http://www.vamworld.com/1880-P VAM-21A
     
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