Ancients => STAMP-STAMP!! => is that TROAS enough for ya?!!

Yah, this is another sweetie that called loudly to me during today's CNG auction ...

=> caw-caw!! ... caw-caw!!

Artemis-stamped-over-Artemis and an Eagle-stamped-over-an-eagle!!

TROAS, Abydos. Æ23 Countermarked issue
Circa 4th-3rd century BC
Diameter: 23 mm
Weight: 7.98 grams
Obverse: Turreted bust of Artemis right
Reverse: ABY, eagle standing right, head left
Reference: SNG Copenhagen 40 for countermark; SNG Copenhagen 38 and SNG Ashmolean 988-9 for undertype
Other: 12h … VF, brown patina
The undertype is a bust of Artemis facing slightly right, wearing mural crown / Eagle standing right, wings displayed



Oh, the "brown counterstamped" version is my sweet new purchase ...

=> the cool "green untouched" version is not my coin "YET"!!

(I merely added the under-coin to illustrate what is going on with my amazing new counter-stamped addition)

I hope that you dudes find this baby as interesting as I do ... cheers, gang!!

 

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Oh, and if anybody ever runs across a nice version of the undercoin, please give me a PM (thanks, coin-comrades)



Oh frick!! => hey, where are my manners??

"Please" post any counter-stamped coins, any coins from Troas, ummm any coins with Artemis and yes, even any coins with cool Eagles on 'em!!

=> it's like a potential pile-on smorgasbord!! (yummy-yummy!!)

 

Now that's so unusual to me that it DOES make it interesting!!

I don't seem to have any of Artemis...but a few Eagles and some 'late' Troas examples (assuming it's the same Troas); Tyche and grazing horse:

 

=> well Mikey-Z, it's certainly the same Troas, but a different coin (but an awesome coin ... I have one too, maybe I'll post it in a few secs?)

Thanks for posting, coin-bud (that's the spirit!!) ... I'm sure that there's more where that came from?!

 

LOL......Just trying to get the thread rolling

 

Ummm, how 'bout a couple more counter-stamps? (and/or over-strikes)



... I may be forgetting a couple, but you get the gist, eh?

 

that's a cool counterstamped coin, and some hot eagle on eagle action.

i have this coin, has some neat counterstamps you can't see well in the pics, pretty clear in hand. includes a helmet and a lone dolphin on the reverse.

 

Cool coin, chrs ...

=> I like you (thanks for manning-up an posting your sweet example)

 

Oh, here are a couple more counter-stamps ...

HERACLIUS Overstruck on Justin I follis



HERACLIUS Overstruck on Anastasius follis

 

What's very interesting about the new coin is that the counterstamp has lettering. That's pretty rare with ancient stamps, and the lettering is very clear. I read ΔOY - does anyone know what it means?

 

Ummm JA, they say it's ABY (Abydos) ...

Oh, and the two examples immediately above also have lettering "SCLS"

... I like you

=> post some of your stuff, my friend!!

 

Hey Steve, didn't know you's a "stamp" collector. Sweet score.

 

Countermarked Troas coin... that one has Stevex6 all over it . Nice win!

 

Do some of those countermarks actually add value to the coins? Like, does anyone have any countermarks indicating a coin belonged to a famous person or a well known temple, etc?

 

Oh, yeah. Maybe I should have read the attribution? lol

 

Very interesting pickup little brother.

TROAS, ASSOS
AE10
OBVERSE: Helmeted head of Athena left
REVERSE: AΣ-ΣI, Bucranium
Struck at Assos 400-300 BC
1.18 g, 10.2 mm
SNG Cop 241; BMC 8

ALEXANDER TROAS CIVIC ISSUE
AE25
OBVERSE: COL ALEX TRO, Turreted & draped bust of city goddess or Tyche right; vexillum behind
REVERSE: COL AL [EX TRO], Horse feeding right, tree behind; beside the horse, a herdsman wearing chlamys, holding pedum in right hand, standing right
Struck at Alexandria Troas, 250-70 AD
5.6g, 24.9mm
BMC 52

ALEXANDRIA TROAS CIVIC ISSUE
AE 19
OBVERSE: CO-L TRO, draped and turreted bust of Tyche right; vexillum behind
REVERSE: CO-L AVG, TRO in exergue, eagle standing right on the forepart of a bull
Struck at Alexandria Troas, Third Century AD
5.06g, 19mm
SNG Cop 117

VALERIAN I
AE20
OBVERSE: IMP LICI VALERIAN, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
REVERSE: VCOL AVG TRO, horse grazing right
Struck at Alexandria Troas, 253-60 AD
4.86g, 21mm
SNGCop 191v

 

Those are sweet Troas examples, Bing ... thanks for posting

 

Well, in "my" particular case, I'll spend more for an old cull with a cool counter-stamp onit, than I'd buy for an old cull itself. Ummm but again, in this OP-example, I think most people would pay more for the "green untouched" coin than they would for my "brown counter-stamped" baby? (I like counter-stamps, so it would probably be a toss-up in my case) ...... but generally, the mintier the example, for more people will pay for it, right (same as any coin type, ancient or modern ... "mint" wins)

Ummm, the second part of your question is yes, I guess?

A couple of my examples have been counter-stamped with Septimius Severus' portait (can you find Waldo?):


Ummm, oh and a couple of examples have been counter-stamped by the Seleukid folks (the "anchor" was their trademark):



I'm pretty sure that the "bee" denotes Ephesos? (anybody want to second that?)




Oh, and of course you must recognize one of the very first signs that artificial insemination was being performed in ancient times:






... well, I could be wrong about the artificial insemination thingy?

Ummm, did I answer your question?

 

Ok, Steve, you win--I'll post the only two counter-marked types I have.....

....one recently purchased at a JA auction ----Antioch Ad Orontes, Cleopatra counter-mark, Zeus laureate and seated; after 47 BC, 10.77 grams)....
.....and this bronze of Antigonos with Athena and Pan 277-239 BC, Macedonia, 18 mm, 5.25 grams--although I can't make out what the 'mark(s)' actually depict:

 

You posted the wrong pic, @Mikey Zee

That's the bow case stamp that went to someone else I believe.

This is the one you want...