1868 Shield Nickel DD ???

I see that. Thanks for the info. Appreciate the help. So is this a DD then.

 

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As I said I THINK it may be, but the images are not good enough for me to be sure. It APPEARS to me that the top blue line passes through the bottom of the ring and that the vertical gulles pass up into the azure lines but I can't be sure. Now you have the coin in hand so you can check that. If they DO then yes it is a DDO.

Not a major one but there are a lot of DDO's in the 1868 shield nickels (and in all the shield nickels.)

 

I do see them lines are crossing over the others.

 

Nice DDO--the doubling is very dramatic!

 

Yes and if you compare the op ' s to mine you'll see the difference . I have several that looks like the op image that has come back from Howard the person whom attributes these as MD not an DDO. That's another reason I said it's not an DDO. I just sent Howard 7 more specimens this week for attibution waiting to hear back from him. I believe at least four will come back as new varieties .

 

Paddy, how would MDD explain the vertical lines running up into the horizontal ones?

 

That is very common on shields. What is not common is what called a bleeder it's an 1876 where the scribe slipped and run through the horizontal lines in the upper shield. If you go look at this variety you ll notice the lines are in different parts as well as angle off .
If you go to shieldnickels.Net there are list of the most sought after varieties , along with Images. I have several nickels where the lines cross. But are not DDO, s .There is one that is a variety but the lines cross in both vertically as well as horizontal .
However it is significant not just at the bottom of the horizontal lines.

 

I believe the one you are confusing is an FS-05-1868-109
It's an ddo as well as a RPD. But the pup is the annulet. It truly shows two circles connected,as well as a rpd.
The horizontal line is lower in the striped and plane vertical lines . But have nothing to do with the double die. These are tricky as I've been fooled by doubling also. I buy these no matter through because the all seen to hide some sort of irregularities going on.

 

I'm aware of the lines running up into the blue lines on the shields of the bust and early seated material from slips of the engraver but I'm not aware of this occurring on the shield nickels because they were the product of hubs and not hand workmanship.

 

They were hand scribe and I can tell you this coins always have something going on. I have seen coins that the arrows shafts continue to run through the shield . Talking to Howard who is the official authority on attribution of shields he has filled up two CD 's full of data on these nickels. I venture to say that there's even more still to be found. I myself have more 67,68,and 69 dates than other dates as these 3 date seem to carry the mother load of varieties . Not to discount other dates as each date has or could have a variety . The later dates more so the 70's are harder to find as their mintage's are smaller. And some were only proof struck. I really want at least one of every MS date, but finding the middle dates are sometimes hard to find. Look at the early mintage's and you see why .
No matter I still love buying 66-69 nickels,as well the 82 and 83. I for the most part won't buy a coin below an VF.
That said the middle dates can be costly in better condition.
Besides in the 68 alone there are 6 different reverse hubs.
To me collecting these is not about filling holes. It's about finding varieties that have yet to be discovered .
I dare to say if these nickels had of been struck in coin silver , they be in demand just as Bust half's, and Morgan silver dollars are.
But that's OK by me as I never worry about finding coins over looked by other collectors .

 

The original coin in this thread is definitely a DDO. The annulet, cross, and lowest horizontal shield lines show a typical shield nickel DDO.

As I have 46 different DDOs catalogued for 1868r67, I'm not going to take the time to try and figure out which one this is. (Would need better photos to try it anyway.)