Theodosus the Second

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  1. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Hello Friends. I acquired this coin promptly after realizing that it represents Roman Emperor Theodosus the Second. In fact, I had previously learned at CT that it is generally a rare Imperial coin. Always glad am I to read your valuable comments and different views. Charles Theq Q.jpg Theq R.jpg
     
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  3. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    Nice coin! I love that sandy patina.
     
  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    I agree => sweet, sweet eye-candy (nice patina)
     
  5. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Here is another similar coin of the same patina and reverse. But the Emperor on obverse is different. I cannot recognize him. Can you ? Unk O.jpg Unk R.jpg
     
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  6. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    I believe the first OP coin is Theodosius I, not II.

    Second coin is Gratian.
     
  7. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Yup, the more common Theo I, but its a nice one. The Gratian isn't bad either.
     
  8. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    AE of Theodosius II tend to be a bit tiny and trashy. It was getting late in the Empire. His gold is about as cheap as you get in Roman (especially if it is worn and ex jewelry) rx8080b01548alg.JPG rx8092bb3085.jpg . This one is dated to the period that Rome was paying the Huns vast amounts of gold to leave them alone. That might help explain why they are common today.
     
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  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Here's my Theo I of the same type. The obverse and legends are weak, but Constantinopolis is well-struck up, which is hard to find.

    Theodosius I
    Ae3; Nicomedia mint, fourth period: 378- 383
    Obv.: DN THEODO-SIVS PF AVG; Pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust r.
    Rev.: CONCOR-DIA AVGGG; Constantinopolis, helmeted, seated facing, head r., on throne, holding partly seen spear and globe, r. leg bare, r. foot on prow / A // SMNΓ
    Reference: RIC IX 31(b) mm5 (p. 258) Scarce

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  11. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I don't have a Theodosius worth posting but I do have this photo of a painting of him, taken at the Art Institute of Chicago earlier this month :)

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    Alessandro Magnasco
    Italian, 1667-1749

    Theodosius Repulsed from the Church by Saint Ambrose
    1700/10
    Oil on canvas

    "In 390 Ambrose, the archbishop of Milan, refused to give communion to Emperor Theodosius (r. 379-95) until he made public penance for the massacre of thousands of innocents after an insurrection. Theodosius, the last emperor to command the entire Roman state, eventually submitted to the archbishop's greater moral authority. This painting typifies Alessandro Magnasco's fluid, highly charged mature manner. In keeping with the artistic traditions of his native Genoa, Magnasco dissolved the figures into ghostly forms. For the elaborate background edifice, which is intended to represent the atrium of an early Christian church, he employed an unidentified architectural painting specialist."

    Normally, when visiting an art museum I make a beeline for the modern wing. This time I was caught up in the classical sections, seeking out anything coin-related. Yeah, I've got it bad...
     
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  12. Zohar444

    Zohar444 Member

  13. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  14. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Here are my two contributions to the Theodosius II thread with really uncommon coins :

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    Theodosius II, Siliqua Constantinople mint
    D N THEODO SIVS P F AVG, diademed draped and cuirassed bust right seen from front
    VOT/XX/MVLT/XXX, within a laurel wreath, CONS* at exergue
    2.16 gr, 18.5 mm
    RIC X, # 381


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    Theodosius II, AE3 Constantinople mint, 1st officina
    DN THEODOSIVS AVG, Diademed and cuirassed bust of Theodiosius facing, holding spear on his right shoulder
    CONCORDI A AVG, Constantinopolis, seated, facing, holding spear and a victory on globe. In exergue CONSA
    2,25 gr, 16 mm
    Ref : RC # 4296, LRBC # 2212 var, RIC X, 90 (R4)

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  15. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

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    Theodosius II AE 4. 402-450 AD, Cyzicus, 1.6g, 14.5mm

    OBV: DN THEODO-SIVS PF AVG, Pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right, star behind.

    REV: GLORI-A ROMA-NORVM, two emperors standing facing, holding globe between them. SMKA in exergue.

    REF: RIC X Cyzicus 415
     
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  16. SIliquae

    SIliquae Well-Known Member

    Here is mine. Not scarce, but no so easy to pick-up...

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    Crédit photo : ©Siliquae
    Silique, 438-450, C

    A/ D N THEODO-SIVS P F AVG
    Dominus Noster Theodosius Pius Felix Augustus, Notre Maître Théodose Pieux et Heureux Auguste
    Buste à droite, drapé et cuirassé, tête diadémée (Perles).
    R/ VOT/MVLT/XXXX//CONS*
    Votis/Multis quadracennalibus, Vœux et plus pour le quarantième à venir
    Légende en 3 lignes dans une couronne de lauriers fermée.
    Argent, Poids : 1.65 gr, Diamètre : 18.1 mm, axe des coins : 11h
    RIC X 389, RSC 21

    La monnaie est sur Nummus-Bible
    Fiche de la monnaie sur la base Siliquae
     
  17. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Cancer-inducing anachronism aside, it is a very beautiful and detailed painting.
     
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