Anonymous Didrachm / Quadrigatus

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  1. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    Thanks Joe. I always enjoy browsing through your wonderful collection.
     
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  3. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Nemo, your quadrigatus-didrachm is absolutely outstanding!

    Cataloging it is a bit difficult, since it could either be Crawford 28/3 or 29/3. Crawford's Roman Republican Coinage gives identical descriptions to these coins, with the following exception:
    28/3: ROMA incuse on tablet or in relief in linear frame
    29/3: ROMA incuse on tablet or in relief on tablet
    Since yours is incuse on tablet, it could be either!

    To make the matter even more confusing, the book has photos...just like your coin (with incuse on tablet)....some are Crawford 28/3 and some are 29/3. So I guess you get to choose!

    I offer my example as comparison; it is clearly Crawford 28/3, since ROMA is in relief in linear frame.
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    Regardless of the Crawford number, your coin is superb!
     
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    WOW! @Nemo and @ancientcoinguru ! You both have fantastic examples of the Didrachm Quadrigatus! I agree with Nemo...I always think of the soldiers who buried their pay prior to the battle, hoping to retrieve it later...with those HUGE losses inflicted by Hannibal, it may be the only way we were able to see the coins today...
    I have a Quadrigatus Didrachm and a Half-Quadrigatus Drachm, but not nearly the stunning example of the OP or the great specimen that ACG shows above. Mine are a bit worn and circulated. PERHAPS, mine were owned by a SURVIVOR and was able to go back and retrieve his stash?

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    Roman Republic
    AR Quadrigatus Didrachm (215-213 BCE)
    20.5mm, 5.6g
    OBV: Beardless Janiform (thought to represent the Dioscuri being beardless)
    REV: Iupiter and Victory in galloping quadriga RIGHT (hence the Quadrigatus designation instead of Didrachm), ROMA in linear frame
    REF: Sear 32; Crawford 29/3 (please help if I mis-referenced...)
     
  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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    Roman Republic
    AR Half-Quadrigatus (216-214 BCE)
    17.7mm, 3.2g
    OBV: Beardless Janiform (thought to represent the Dioscuri being beardless)
    REV: Iupiter and Victory in galloping quadriga LEFT (to distinguish it from Quadrigatus Didrachm), ROMA in ex
    REF: Sear 35

    The descendant coins of the Half-Quadrigatus Drachm was the Victoriatus, which was a Roman Drachm or approx 3/4 of a Denarius... Generally thought to be used in trade with Magna Graecia (Southern Italy Greek Cities).
     
  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I also recently captured my "Ugly Coin". I love this as it was difficult to find, but is within the Roman Didrachm series...

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    Roman Republic
    AR Didrachm (275-270 BCE)
    17.7mm x 20.7mm, 7.2g
    OBV: [ROMANO] to left, meaning "Of the Romans", Laurel head of Apollo l
    REV: Horse galloping r, Star above
    REF: Sear 23; Crawford 15/1
     
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  7. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Once again, I find myself lusting after your coins. I don't have a half-quadrigatus drachm, but I want one!!:greedy:
     
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  8. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Also within the Roman Didrachm series...
    Rome #1 AR obv.jjpg.jpg Rome #1 AR rev.jpg
    Anonymous Romano-Campanian Coinage 280-276 BC
    AR didrachm of Metapontium - 7.09gm - 20 mm
    Obv: Helmeted Mars head left
    Rx: horse head right
    Ref: Crawford 13/1, Syd 1 (R5), Sear22

    Also a somewhat "ugly coin" but gorgeous to me!
     
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @ancientcoinguru I sense we have a lot of complimentary RR coins. Between us, we would have a fun collection. (Our Quinarii, as an example)

    I was shocked that I won the Half-Quadrigatus Drachm, but was "disappointed" at the time that I could not find a full Quadrigatus. I later found out that I won the really difficult capture with the Half!

    I am still on the prowl for Aes Grave (and MANY others)... and, LOL, unfortunately we all get restricted by the Crises/Opportunity "STRIKE-ESS" figure... $$$ :D
     
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL!!! I have been LOOKING for that one!!! :D NICE JOB!!! Well done!
     
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  11. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Maybe we should put an exhibit together one day, since our collection does seem to complement each other.:joyful: BTW -- I have been looking for an affordable half-quadrigatus drachm for over 10 years, so you did good with your win!!
    I have a bunch of aes grave, but am struggling with how to photograph them properly. Just got an iPhone, so perhaps that will help...
     
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  12. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Does anyone else have any of the early Roman Republican silver minted before 211BC? I’d love to see them, since I only have the 2 shown in this thread.
     
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  13. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    An excellent coin, Nemo. Here's mine which I think you've seen before but others haven't on this board.

    Anonymous Didrachm or Quadrigatus Baldwins.jpg
     
  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Some of you guys have such nice coins like this from Carth. It almost makes me reluctant to post my poor examples.
     
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  15. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    But Bing, in bizarro world, our poor examples are the only ones worth seeing!

    Seriously though, I believe every ancient coin deserves a collector. I love some of my junky common coins more than some of my pretty ones. Anyway, you said "almost", so post away!
     
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  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Almost is correct. I still show my budget examples. I just try not to post them too close to some of these gorgeous examples.
     
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  17. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    Please don't feel that way!! There is a collection for everyone out there and we're all interested in seeing everyone's coins.

    And believe me, there are much better coins out there than mine. Look at the coins Phil Davis posts for instance.
     
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  18. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    :(;):p
    I feel the same way when it comes to Greek coins or the Roman emperors -- you have many coins nicer than those I can show:(. So please don't be reluctant, show your examples...which will encourage new members of this group such as myself to do the same!
     
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  19. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    A-C-G, Absolutely gorgeous!!!:jawdrop::wideyed::woot::woot::woot::)

    I'd LOVE to have it!!!!

    In fact I love all those posted!!

    Alas, No RR denarii before 211 BC:(
     
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  20. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    Carthago, I never get tired of admiring that quadrigatus! One of the best examples and in the finest style!

    Ancientcoinguru, I agree with your conclusions on the Crawford numbers, a cataloging hybrid. Nice to see your example as well.

    Although this is one of my finest coins, it has been consigned at Forvm, although not yet listed. I fell in love with it at first sight but it just doesn't fit in with my main collecting focus of Roman Imperial and Judean coins.
     
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  21. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    WHAT?!?! Earmuffs everyone! Nemo's talking dirty!

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    Seriously, a great coin but it's probably worth a pretty penny so it will free up some $$ for new purchases.

    I guess we can overlook the outrage of casting this beauty outside the city walls without fire or water in the pursuit of specialization. ;)
     
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