I know I keep asking....

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by rooman9, Nov 1, 2015.

  1. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    But do you think this is a proof? It has a strong strike but it just doesn't quite look like a proof to me. I can easily tell proof pennies and half pennies but I have a hard time with proof silver coins from Australia :p They don't have quite the same luster as the american ones.
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  3. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Looks like one based on the last photo.

    Here's a photo I found online of one.
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  4. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Stand it upright and see if the fields will catch any reflections in them ...
     
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  5. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Looks like a nice strike from an older die - fields are too "grainy" to be a proof. Not even "proof like". Maybe buffed ??
     
  6. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    That's the thing, a lot of these aussie proofs come out that way. They're not the best proofs in the world. They only made around 1000 every year.
     
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  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    More than 1000 ;)

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  8. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    WOW! That's pretty crappy for a proof! Unless you are used to that.
     
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  9. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    haha alright alright. Still not that many though.

    @Markus1959 It's very hit or miss with aussie proofs some look fantastic and others not so much. Either way they're pretty expensive.
     
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  10. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    :yack::yack::yack:
    Well please miss this one -
     
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  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Here is some interesting information - quote - "The circulation strike 1956 Florin can be tough to find in higher grades with 1956 being the year of the Melbourne Olympics and many of the coins being souvenired by tourists. Additionally, the city was prepared for a higher demand on their proofs as "tourist collectors items". These proofs were specially struck and sold for premium prices" closed quote
    I want to share this webpage with you -
    http://www.australian-florin.com/elizabeth-ii-florins.php
     
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  12. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    That is very interesting. I never thought about that. So it's either a rare MS or a proof ;) win win haha
     
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  13. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    The proofs are rather scarce, but I hope you stumble across one! :) One thing I remember that Aussie friends have told me--the proofs have very square rims. And since the mintage is only 1500, you probably won't see any die wear, ie flow lines on the coin. That said, I'm not qualified to know what a proof looks like--I'll just post a pic of a certified one:

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  14. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    Didn't the seller have any history on it? Perhaps he would tell you how he obtained it and you could back track from there. If there is so much confusion trying to identify their proofs, you would do well to have this graded just for authenticity, if for anything else.
     
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  15. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    I asked and got the typical, "I know this is a proof, I wouldn't sell it if I knew it wasn't."
     
  16. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    I bet they're aware that if they got it certified, they could sell it for a lot more, hence their "I know..." ;) To my eyes, the rims of the obverse look too rounded for an Aussie proof. It could easily be an early die state of a circulation strike.

    Another observation--with a mintage of just 1500, they probably used a single die pair for all the proof Florins that year. If that coin were proof, those die scratches and other marks should be visible on the certified one I posted.
     
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  17. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

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  18. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    Exactly, that's why I'm hesitant to buy it. It's sitting at some low bids and the guy sells mostly low end world coins. I think I might pass.
     
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  19. Jason Hoffpauir

    Jason Hoffpauir Avid Coin Collector

    Sorry not a proof; but a very strong strike. :smuggrin:
     
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