1858 Flying Eagle Large Letters, Lamination?

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by buddy16cat, Oct 29, 2015.

  1. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    I was thinking this was PMD on this coin but I do have coins with lamination error. What do you think? Lamination on coins this old don't really demand a premium but don't deduct from the value.

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  3. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    It looks more like PMD to me.

    It doesn't have the appearance of a lamination.

    There are millions of ways a coin could pick up PMD, but there are only a few different ways that a lamination will occur. Usually, they'll appear fairly similarly. Your's doesn't look like a lamination.
     
  4. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  6. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Let me see the other side of that coin. I want to see if it's as marked up. That center irregularity may have come first, the marks inside, second. I say that because I've see these early cents with center irregularities something like that. I refer to them as that, because they have irregular shapes, defying description. This one is deeper than the ones I've seen.
     
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  7. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I've been athletic all my life and still can't jump as far as some around here do to reach a conclusion. We've no chance at a fair (to you) diagnosis without both faces and higher resolution, and even then the level of wear means we'll likely never be sure. My gut says it's postmint but don't forget that guts don't have eyes.
     
  8. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Some of your pot marks look like these. Same metallic composition on the coins. Let's see your coin's reverse. And, yes, that obverse center needs to be photographed way sharper.

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  9. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    What's your hypothesis?
     
  10. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

  11. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    I got this other one too. Trying to grade it. Looks F-12/F-15 to me. It is a little dark. 18582_99.JPG 18582R_99.JPG
     
  12. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Well, the reverse isn't the clearest, but it's enough to make out the pot marks. It's just as on my reverse. I don't know what the origin of those is. That obverse center has still me going, too. There's where I think you really need some crisp, clear pictures.
     
  13. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Yours looks like it was stabbed repeatedly with a sharp object.
     
  14. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Dark is good on old coins, it means that they haven't been messed with too much. I'm more in the VG-10 range for your coin. I would suggest that you try to remove all of the cardboard lint that is on the coin. They can do mysterious and fairly ugly things to your coin after a few years.
     
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