1652 pine tree shilling

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Johnace87, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. Johnace87

    Johnace87 New Member

    Can anyone give me input if this coin is genuine it was my grandfathers collection? 20151012_050219-1-800x790.jpg 20151021_230635-1-1024x1067.jpg 20151020_151808-1024x1821.jpg
     
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  3. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Unfortunately, no it is not genuine. It appears to be a cast replica.
     
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  4. Johnace87

    Johnace87 New Member

    What are the indications if you don't mind?
     
  5. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    The surfaces have a mushy grainy appearance, also it is too thick to be a genuine large planchet pine tree shilling. The weight should be around 72 grains, I suspect if you weigh it yours will be much heavier.
     
  6. Johnace87

    Johnace87 New Member

    So it is 100% a replica
     

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  7. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    In my opinion, but if you want to weigh it, see if it is anywhere near the correct weight.
     
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  8. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Answering your PM here, I am in no way qualified on Colonials or Chinese coins. Gave up on foreign coins a long time ago, but you might want to post the Chinese coin, along with some photos in the world coin thread for the others who might lead you in the right direction. The only thing that led me to comment on this one was that I have seen a lot of these posted here that had casting bubbles and were indeed copies/fakes/counterfeits. It's always a good idea to have a scale handy also. They are under $20.00 on Ebay shipped for free. A good investment as is a good loupe. Wish I could help, sorry.
     
  9. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    It appears to be a cast copy looks too thick the details are too mushy even for hand cut dies. And has a surface granularity not consistent even with environment damaged silver
     
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  10. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I agree with Mainebill, surfaces very porous due to casting, lettering too rounded/bloated for a genuine coin.
     
  11. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    As it turns out, you won't get a different answer posting it in 4 different subforums on two different sites. I believe you have gotten the same answer every time: fake.
     
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