Valens Siliqua

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  1. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Hi folks!
    I found this Valens Siliqua at a price I could not resist.
    Interestingly enough, emissions of Siliquae in the Eastern Empire drastically fell after Valens death in 378, how odd?
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    Valens. AD 364-378. AR Siliqua (1,84g). Antioch mint. Struck AD 367-375. Pearl-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right / VOT/ X/ MVLT/ XX in four lines within wreath; ANT. RIC IX 34b.1; RSC 96†e. Good VF.

    I think I did very well as far as price goes, another dealer was selling an obverse and reverse die match for $200.

    From Socrates of Constantinople on the death of Emperor Valens:
    "Some have asserted that he was burnt to death in a village whither he had retired, which the barbarians assaulted and set on fire. But others affirm that having put off his imperial robe he ran into the midst of the main body of infantry; and that when the cavalry revolted and refused to engage, the infantry were surrounded by the barbarians, and completely destroyed in a body. Among these it is said the Emperor fell, but could not be distinguished, in consequence of his not having on his imperial habit."
    Please post your coins of poor Emperor Valens!:(
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    RIP Valens:arghh::oops::sorry::depressed::(
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Awesome new score, Mag-Max (yummy ... congrats)

    Hmmm, Valens eh? ... I don't think I've got too much in that category?! (*yikes*)


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    :oops:

    *whatev* ... no judging!!
     
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  4. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Very nice MM, i need to get a good Siliqua!
     
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  5. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Congrats on the new addition to your collection. A siliqua is one of those coins I've been wanting to add to my pile for awhile now. I finally managed to recently, and coincidentally, it also happens to be a Valens :).

    I don't have it in hand yet, so these are the seller's pics.

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    VALENS
    AR Siliqua
    2.01g, 18mm
    Trier mint, 1st officina, AD 367-375
    RIC IX 27b and 46a.1
    O: DN VALEN-S PF AVG, Pearl-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right.
    R: VRBS ROMA, Roma seated left on throne, holding crowning Victory on globe and scepter; TRPS dot in exergue.
     
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  6. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Thanks for the kind words guys.
    @zumbly Very nice!
    Here is mine from the Trier mint
    Valens Siliqua.jpg
    Valens, 364-378 AD. AR Siliqua, 18 mm, 2.21 gm. Treveri mint. Struck 367-375 AD. Obv: Pearl-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right. Rev: Roma seated left on throne, holding scepter and crowning Victoriola.
     
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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Beautiful coin MM.
    Valens 13.jpg Valens 11.jpg Valens 9.jpg
     
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  8. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    @Bing Always nice to see that Goldie :snaphappy::cat::cigar:
    @SIliquae Do you know why production of Siliquae nearly flat lined in the Eastern Roman Empire after Valens death in 378? I have not yet found a good reason yet:banghead:
     
  9. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    The fact that others (his generals and administrators) basically caused the revolt for him gains my sympathy for Valens, but not him getting himself killed by not waiting on Gratian and his troops. I feel more bad for the majority of the Eastern army that died for Valens' desire for all of the glory.

    Nice coin BTW.
     
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  10. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    I can agree with you. Valens should have waited for Gratian's Generals and Army. Perhaps he was trying to prove that he could win a battle for once in his life. It was an un necessary disaster, I suppose the only bright side of this is that the Western Army was not destroyed and that the East at least got an Emperor who knew how to win battles.
     
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  11. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    M.M. I love those Siliquae of yours. Here are a couple of (ordinary) follis of mine.

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  12. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

  13. SIliquae

    SIliquae Well-Known Member

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  14. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Thanks Siliqua, I can say the same about your coin!
    I have a question for you though-
    Do you know why production of Siliquae nearly flat lined in the Eastern Roman Empire after Valens death in 378?
     
  15. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Nice silver all around
    Here's mine

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    Valens, Siliqua Treveri mint
    DN VALENS PF AVG, diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right
    VRBS ROMA, Roma seated left, holding victory and sceptre, TRPS at exergue
    2.15 gr
    Ref : Cohen # 109, Roman coins # 4113

    Q
     
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  16. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Valens

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    Valens, AD 364-378
    AE, 3.1g, 18.5mm; 6h; Siscia
    Obv.: DN VALEN-S PF AVG; pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right
    Rev.: SECVRITAS-REIPVBLICAE, F in in left field, M in right field; Victory advancing right holding wreath in right hand and palm in left
    In Ex.: ASISC
    It is missing a star, and the fine folks here have led me to believe it was left off accidentally by the engraver.

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    AE, 2.6g, 17.528mm, 12h, Thessalonica
    Obv: DN VALEN-S PF AVG; pearl diademed, surpassed bust right
    Rev: GLORIA RO_MANORVM; emperor walking right, head left, holding labrum and dragging bound captive. O in left field, dot over delta in right field
    In Ex: TES
     
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