Would Someone Tell Me What This Is - Non-Coin

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  1. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Didn't know where else to post this.

    About 6¼" in diameter.
    Counting the relief it's about ¾" thick.
    It's most likely made of hard wax.
    2" hanging loop at the top.
    1½" tassel at the bottom.

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    I suspect it's not much more than a wall plaque honoring Queen Victoria circa 1900.

    Is there a specific name/reason for this?
     
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    guessing a seal ? wait for other opinions...
     
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    spirityoda Coin Junky

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  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    @kanga

    Check with Hedley Betts at medalsoftheworld.com

    He could probably help you since he specializes in British medals.

    Chris
     
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  6. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    How about carefully copying all the writing around the edge? It's very hard to read, but that should lead to a quick ID.

    Incidentally, the OP's medal is not uniface, it has designs on both sides, so not really comparable to the eBay piece. Hard wax? It's not bronze??
     
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  7. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Ebay auction states it's the reverse side pic - mentions nothing about uniface!
     
  8. harris498

    harris498 Accumulator

    Whatever it is, it's neat.
     
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  9. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Kool , I love anything with Vicky on it .
     
  10. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    opps... you are right of course. my bad. :facepalm: since you've mentioned it... I am thinking it might be the lost wax system of making a medal ??? I could be wrong on that too... just guessing at this point. I just saw that it looked similar to the OP's in question.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's possible it's a galvano. Don't know that it is, but ..........
     
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  12. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    You'd find such a seal on the bottom of a grant of letters patent such as an elevation to the nobility, possibly a grant of arms, typically for some award still in the Queen's gift. If you have the original and complete document the seal is enclosed in a tin box for protection. I have sold a few examples of documents and similar seals over the years.
     
  13. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    If this were a seal that is pressed into wax to seal an official document, wouldn't the design and lettering be backwards on the seal itself so that the mirrored image left on the sealed document is readable?
     
  14. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Not on the type of formal document mentioned. I assume they are made by pouring wax into a negative mould, including the ribbon so the ribbon is inside the wax. The documents are usually vellum, the seal is suspended freely by the ribbon.

    Here is an example of a17th C. Probably Prussian seal, somewhat smaller at about 3 inches across and somewhat battered, but of the same family of objects. I recently found this one in a collection of antiques.

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