I talked with a guy, dont remember his name, that is working on this. When I first called, they said 24 hour response. A week ago, I called, they said they were still working on it. So, today, I stated I wanted 'doubled, or doubling' on the slab. They said they know, and are racking their brains...
PCGS got a hold of me, and they will be sending me their determination of how they will label this error. I am expecting a email by their lunch time. I will make a new post.
You see this "doubling" a lot on the D mint marks on these plated cents wherein the strike jarred aside the plating revealing that much of the core. We throw those back unless they have something else going on. You have polishing and hardened grease going on.
Actually, Amos, I can't explain that shadow 8. "Hardened grease" doesn't get one anywhere. Maybe you can help me visualize how it happened? I mean, if you understand it.
So, from my research, I concluded that the grease on the die 1st hardened. Then it broke in a few spots, as well as shifted from the die. As the die came down, the hardened grease still attached, yet shifted, made this cent. From what I gather, it is the rarest form of doubling now, due to strict 'quality controls'. I have only found one other example of this, and I think Mike Diamond owns the other one. The 8 is not just shadowed, it is raised off the field.
They said it would be up to the individual grader if they add terms like grease, and doubling. It would be most likely labeled as 'struck thru' however. So, I guess its time to gather up a few coins and ship them off. I have the 84ddo, and just found a nice 1873 IHC in a roll...Ill be posting that to see if its worthy to be sent in, it has some weird cud/or die chips on it.
Raised off the coin means indented on the die. How did it get indented on the die? Hard grease on the die can indent, but it has to hit something that's raised to do that. Do I need to slow down for the rest of you? Lol. Where's Mike when you need him?
Trust me, Im pulling my hair out too...and the resources paddy, and a few others offered on the 1st page of this thread, were a great starting point.
So, its still sitting here. I decided I do not like any of the grading services, and im better off just selling my CRH Cents raw with real good photos. I have started the sorting as of a few days ago, and did list a toned one that got 0 bids for .99 free shipping. Time to move to the greasers, etc. So this sweet coin will sit here forever as the coolest one i ever found so far.....the rest are out of here to fund next years collection, just to repeat.
There are still only 2 of us with this coin. http://www.lincolncentforum.com/for...rike/page2&s=75733007a81664a5112cf80327ef686c "Fifteen months later and I found a duplicate of my 1998 grease mold doubled Lincoln. I found it on Coin Talk because a member Amos 811 uses it as his avatar. Check it out."
Not a member of the forum, stumbled across it doing research on this coin. I was searching fresh bank rolls today & found one('98) in approximately AU condition. Comparison to the coin pictured is close although i would say mine is possibly later state. The 8 is stretched out farther & both of the 9's appear as weak with the lower halves almost nonexistent but no wear. Additionally, I noticed nobody has mentioned the missing "I" in Liberty on the one pictured. The "I" is fully missing on mine as well but there is also barely a trace of the "B" visible...again no signs of wear. Reverse has a LOT going on, far to much to describe. Dont know if i have the capabilities to post quality pics but will see what i can do. Any further word on value or rarity (aka known #s out there)
High Amos, will take a few days to get some pics posted. My phone doesnt have the capabilities for pics with any sort of detail. I will get them posted though, i promise that.
Sorry bout the circles, had to use a microscope with the camera up to the occular to get decent quality pics
So, I would say yours is the 4th example. The original, the gentleman's above, was featured in a coin world mag story by mike diamond. I would say mine was the first struck, then his...then yours and the other one (because the hardened grease buildup would become pliable under the stress of the dies mashing together). It is amazing how this happened. And we all have a really rare, unique coin.