I've lost all faith in NGC

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by flyers10, May 10, 2007.

  1. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    I submitted 7 coins to NGC a few weeks ago and just got my grades online. I did the online invoice form. The number 7 coin was a 1963 Washington Quarter which I mistakenly put down as MS instead of PF on the invoice. I caught the mistake and sent NGC a email telling them that. They said no problem. It will be taken care of at grading. A blind mind could see this was obviously a proof coin and should of (in my opinion at least gone cameo). Well it came back a MS66! You would think they would at least they would give it a * for superior eye appeal! I will post pictures when I get them back in a few days and you will see what a screw up this was.
     
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  3. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    sometimes people do make mistakes, i am sure that is what had to have happend. the person who you talked to said they would pass it on, they made a mistake - it happens. Email them again, since there is a paper trail about the coin, i am sure they will re-grade it for free....

    good luck.
     
  4. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    A mistake is a mistake but when a top tier grading service gets a cameo proof quarter in hand and can't tell the difference between a business strike and a proof something is wrong. You would at least think I would get a * or Pl designation for it. I know it's hard to judge not seeing a picture of the coin. I will post when I get it. Not very happy. :headbang:
     
  5. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

  6. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    Thanks Ben-
    I remember that thread. Some great info there. If NGC graded this as a MS coin it should of least been givin a PL designation. I collect washington quarters from 1932-1998 and have a very high end set of them in a Intercept Shield album. This 1963 quarter I submitted you look at and go that is one nice cameo proof quarter. 1963 is a common date and I wouldn't just send in any quarter to grade. There is no way anyone could mistake this for a business strike especially a respected grading service. I gave them the heads up on the form I made a mistake and they still screwed it up.
     
  7. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    I would keep it in the MS holder as an error slab.
     
  8. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    Thanks..I plan too. Can't wait to get the coin back. I will take some pictures and see what everyone thinks.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Ya know, it is in all likelihood just a slab error ( a typo ) and not have anything to do with your submission form or the graders. In other words, the coin was correctly graded as a Proof but the person who printed slab label made the mistake.

    Like this for example, do you really think the graders made the mistake ?
     

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  10. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    LOL....do you own that coin ?
     
  11. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Right on. I had an 1852 Gold $1 which came back in an NGC slab which said S$1 (silver dollar). Obviously no way a mistake by graders. Simple typo, no reason for excitement. Fixed for free. No probs.
     
  12. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Ah yes Doug, I remember that one. It's a classic. :) Flyers --will they regrade or reslab the lot for free or will it end up costing you twice to get them properly graded and slabbed?
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Used to, I bought it specifically because of the mistake ;)
     
  14. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Free. This isn't a regrading, just a fix of a typo. Different internal process.
     
  15. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    That could be the problem. Wonder if they meant to have PF66 on it? Hate to think I sent the coin I thought would be a higher grade cameo proof quarter come back only Proof 66. Maybe the slab error with MS66 might not be so bad! :thumb:
     
  16. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    If they made the mistake free. Sounding more and more like I will just keep it anyway. Should have it in a few days. I will post pictures to see what you all think. Thanks.
     
  17. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    Added note: This is like the 3 error out of about 7 submissions I have had with NGC. The 2006 20th silver reverse proof from the 3 coin set. I submitted 5 of those and 4 came back with the correct special black 20th anniversary label and 1 came back in the regular brown label which was incorrect. No big deal there. Next i submitted a 2006 W Uncirculated (the burnished die coin). They labeled that coin just 2006 silver eagle without putting the W mint mark. I did send that one back to get it fixed.
     
  18. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    7 submissions... how many total coins ?
     
  19. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    69 total coins which includes 1 submission for a sealed box of 10 2006 20th annivesary silver 3 coin sets (30 coins total).
     
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    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

  21. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    flyers:
    Proof, no cameo.
     
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