Is this guy a coin doctor?

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  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

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  3. bsowa1029

    bsowa1029 Franklin Half Addict

    all questionable color imo. I wouldn't buy any of those coins.
     
  4. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I wouldn't buy any of those coins regardless of color. The word dreck comes to mind.
     
  5. cremebrule

    cremebrule Active Member

    Some are AT, others are nicely toned (the Ike looks especially nice). However, most of them (both the AT and NT ones) are low grade MS or circulated so I wouldn't bother bidding on any of them (except of course, again, the Ike :) ).

    EDIT: By "nicely toned" I mean NT.
     
  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    What do you think specifically about this one?

    Sorry, I meant to put this in chat instead of US.

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  7. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Although the Eisenhower Dollar looks unreasonable from what I've seen over the years, it's also quite possible from what I've seen over the years.

    Getting a good look at the reeded edge might offer some answers since if "heat" is applied, it will discolor that copper edge but if the coin is in a 2x2, it's possible that the edge could be left undisturbed.

    CnClad coins react differently in different environments.

    This 1971 turned blue in a Capital plastics holder along with the other coins in the collection.

    1971-P MS66 $ Coin.jpg

    While it does not exhibit the target toning of the IKE that the seller has it does exhibit a bright gold area on the reverse which some of the CnClad coins do in fect develop.

    Given the fact that the rest of the sellers coins exhibit the same toning patterns, I'd would be a safe bet to assume that the coins have been messed with some way or another.
     
  8. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    I'm tempted to say AT. The obverse colours are too banded, and the untoned reverse is a bit suspicious, although it may well just be to do with how it was stored.
     
  9. John14

    John14 Active Member

    [video=youtube;x6owgB_2Y2k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6owgB_2Y2k[/video]
    :) Actually I'm not sure. The coin show I attended 2 weeks ago had a lot of rainbow toned graded newer issue ASE's (NGC/PCGS). Kinda makes you think...:scratch:
     
  10. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    When almost all a sellers coins look the same it's a big red flag .
     
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  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Yeah, that's what I've learned from this forum. Still, his inventory is tiny. Perhaps he just seeks out toners?
     
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  12. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    I wouldn't buy any of his coins at all, they all look AT to me so either he gets them from someone else or he cooks them up himself. IMO sellers like that don't respect the hobby at all so I ignore them.
     
  13. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Ahyuuuuuuuuuuup!
     
  14. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    The coins are raw, they are all inexpensive for toned coins, and they all look the same. I'd say more than suspicious. Also, I don't find any of them particularly attractive.
     
  15. LindeDad

    LindeDad His Walker.

    Over priced coins that most often are found in the junk lots and played with to make money off the inexperienced is what I think we are looking at.
     
  16. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Thank you gentlemen. I've revised my shopping cart accordingly. :)
     
  17. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Of his 10 or so offerings, I didn't see any coins that screamed AT to me.

    That said, none of them really appealed to me either, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes it can be. But it is also possible for many coins from a single collection to all have very similar toning.

    When it comes to toning there are no rules. And even if you are very experienced with toned coins, just because you have never seen toning on a particular coin similar to what you are looking at, that does not mean it is AT. It just means it is unusual toning. Of course the opposite could be true as well. And that's the entire point - you never know for sure.
     
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  19. olero

    olero Active Member

    I don't know if it is the toning or the lighting used when photographing.
     
  20. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Zombie thread alert!
     
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  21. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    LOL.
     
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