If you don't like the rules then don't ask there. I for one would prefer if you don't make it personal though as one of the admins for the fakes section there. I try to be helpful. I haven't posted publically here or there on this coin. I have been asked my opinion, which I have given. It is an opinion and no more.
Make what comments you wish about Forum. It has its faults and personalities but please don't paint everyone with the same brush.
You know, I was going to make the same point about these rules on that site. While those rules seem rigid and summarily dictatorial, if you actually read them they are clearly designed to be constructive and efficient. Basically, the rules force the requester to provide necessary and sufficient information to help determine whether the coin is a fake, and also to prevent possible inaccurate and pejorative comments about vendors and sellers. I don't see what's wrong with this. How many times has an individual posted a question on this site, only to have a dozen followup questions necessary before everyone was able to garner enough information to answer the original question? Wouldn't it have been easier if the original poster had some guidelines for structuring his initial questions clearly and succinctly?
My apologies. I made a rash comment to be glib. However, when I posted a fake, all those that responded were extremely helpful and thourogh. I have recently purchased from Joe, and received prompt, excellent service.
That is true, IOM. The difficulty is that some of the regulars can be rather mean-spirited when pointing out a poster's shortcomings. Being a popular stop for collectors who are trying to evaluate the authenticity of their coins, Forvm members are probably weary of making the same requests for clarification over and over, and humans are humans . I should cut them some slack, as hopefully they will do for me.
The site is hosted by a coin shop and the owner doesn't like people simply using it as a method to allow people to screen purchases from ebay. I have seen the site evolve since 2003 when there were very few of us there. We went through phases where people would post dozens of coins with the title "Fake?" which were newly listed ebay coins. It hosts a set of fake reports which it is suggested that you peruse first. There is an attempt to encourage people to be able to detect and identify the fakes themselves by education rather than relying on others. I have personally added over 4,000 entries to the fake reports to make them a useful resource.
While I have no problem with (and even appreciate) sarcasm when it's deserved, I draw the line at unnecessary mean-spiritedness and agree with you on this point. That's why I specifically referenced the site's rules, rather than those responding to the post.
Believe it or not one of their overriding rules is "be nice". There are several members there who might have forgotten this rule.
Most of the collectors here do that once in a while, so for the most part "no harm no foul" as the sportscasters would say. But in a broader perspective (and I realize I might be a minority of one here), these kinds of posts -- egregiously off-topic ones made simply in an attempt to be humorous -- have become so prevalent lately that many threads are being rendered unreadable. Scrolling past a dozen or more recent posts to find actual coin-related content simply isn't very rewarding -- especially inasmuch as what passes for humor in many cases is repetitive, tiresome, and juvenile. The (rare) funny and original posts stand out like gems, and I'm not suggesting that this site try to censor all attempts at humor. But my observation is that most of the non-coin posts contain about as much humor as breaking wind contains L'air du Temps (a perfume, in case you're unfamiliar with it). A little more self-restraint and objective judgment about the quality of one's humor in a post might be the solution.
OK, I suppose this thread has been hijacked, first about Forum and now about humor or lack thereof depending on your POV. I'm still trying to decide if I will or will not keep this coin. No word from the seller, but it is a weekend.
Don't look at or think about it until Monday. Maybe have a few of your favorite refreshments, do some chores...and look at it Monday. Pick it up and if it doesn't speak to you...send it back.
It's doubtful you'll ever feel 100% comfortable about this coin without having it authenticated by an expert directly (coin in hand). BUT, you'll probably feel this way about any coin you purchase from a dealer. I'd probably keep it -- I don't really see anything (including weight and size) to indicate it's a counterfeit.
Hi Bing ... ummm, I'm glad that Martin & Batman at least gave you some peace of mind ... Oh, and I also know you all too well, my friend => you are "not" gonna spend an extra $50+ bucks to get my hero's certification!! ... so I guess you've bought yourself a coin, my friend (congrats => hey wow, great coin!!) I like you Now you can relax and have a great Saturday night, brother
i agree with stevex, with the two votes "authentic" from batman and martin, and the other votes from the experts being "abstain", i think you're in good shape. if anyone is interested, i found this great new container for storing coins. anything larger than 30 mm or wider than 4 mm will not fit. it may contain PVC however.
It's probably for the best since it would have always bothered you. So sorry it didn't turn out as hoped!