Nice example of machine doubling

worthless but it look's cool

 

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Wow TRUST is crazy looking and one of the most severe MDs ive seen. I'd buy that from you for 5$ lol.

 

What do you think about this one? Do you think it's a DDR or MD?

 

I've never understood why these are "worthless", except some error poobah declared them so fifty years ago. Personally, I find them imminently collectible and am willing to pay for great examples.

Actually, you can find some decent sales on eBay, properly described as MD. This s a nice example.

 

Check ebay sold listings. MD sells even when correctly described

 

they are worthless because they are not errors, most are from die deterioration because in trying to save money the mint uses the dies far past their limits, while searching nickels i find dozens an dozens of coins far worse than the OP's...

 

IMO those selling these should be banned, whether "correctly" described or not...

 

MD's are a neat thing to add to any collection.

 

Thanks Ken. That's a very nice example.Thanks for sharing that with us! What about that block button.I'am just kidding. I've got to do something too kill time,can't watch TV anymore.Wow do they really think we the people are that stupid?

 

This "discussion" shows a very limited and somewhat inaccurate understanding of "machine doubling". I'm taking the liberty of borrowing from the preamble on the error-ref section on these coins:

Definition: This form of doubling typically results from vibration or instability affecting the die, die assembly, or press frame. It has also occasionally been blamed on a coin sticking to the anvil die during ejection (“ejection doubling”).

Anyone genuinely interested in understanding what's going on would be well advised to check good references (here is one http://www.error-ref.com/machine-doubling/)

Here is the section on die deterioration: http://www.error-ref.com/die-deterioration-doubling/

 

here's more info for those of you with a somewhat inaccurate understanding of "machine doubling".... http://doubleddie.com/144801.html

 

Die deterioration is one of the reasons for Cuds. Are they worthless?

 

I for one bought one of those 60 count coin albums and put any MD,die deterioration doubling etc in them as a form of reference. Having examples of each type can come in helpful down the road.

 

cuds are from broken dies and are considered errors, mint employees job to replace broken dies and if one keeps striking coins then he's not doing his job, an error..
cuds always involve the rim and carry a premium, die chips do not involve the rim and may or may not carry a premium... http://cuds-on-coins.com/

 

and the day will come when you realize you no longer need that reference (as you have it memorized or use the multitude of online references) and put that album to good use instead of using it for coins that are better off spent...

 

But how about when I hand it down to the next generation. Isn't it all about preservation in numismatics ? How will the up and coming generation learn if perfect examples for them to learn on are destroyed or lost to time? I'm pretty good with knowing the difference now. Have been around coins a long time. Just had a lot of coins with MD and what not that needed a album.

 

thats fine as long as there is something with those coins to inform the next generation of exactly what they are, seen it many times when someone inherits coins an think they have something great when in reality they have nothing at all...then again, how will they feel when they learn they've inherited an album full of coins worth only face value..

 

I actually have on the front of the album "forms of non valuable doubling" I don't go out of my way to pursue it. If I come across one ,like above that can be confused fora DD I'd like to have it. I guess its something to keep me busy numismatic wise while saving for bigger $$$ purchases. Most of them are crh finds. The only value they have are for its silver content.

 

Some look like they might be from die caps

 

Worthless, only in the numismatic "premium" sense because if folks were to examine hundreds or thousands of coins, they would see that this is a quite common occurrence.

There are some unusual examples out there.