Cleaned Arados Tet

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Bing, Oct 10, 2015.

  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Many will remember the Phoenicia Arados Tet I posted about a month ago.
    PHOENICIA ARADOS.jpg

    Well, I just couldn't leave it be with all the black spots as seen in the image above. So I soaked it for about two hours in lemon juice brushing every so often. This is the result
    PHOENICIA ARADOS b.jpg
    It's a bit bright now, but I am hoping it will take on some toning before too long. I believe some of you will say I should have left it alone, but personally, I think it looks much better now. Feel free to express your honest opinions.
    PHOENICIA ARADOS with side view.jpg
    PHOENICIA ARADOS
    AR Tetradrachm
    OBVERSE: Turreted, veiled, and draped bust of Tyche right
    REVERSE: Nike standing left, holding wreath and palm frond; in left field, ZOP (date) above Aramaic B above ΘЄ; all within wreath
    Arados CY 177 (83/82 BC)
    14.91g, 27mm
    Duyrat 3536–49; HGC 10, 72; DCA 772; BMC 239
     
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  3. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Interesting! What do you think those black spots were?
    I agree, it looks way better now.
    Cheers!
     
  4. doucet

    doucet Well-Known Member

    looks nice.

    It will tone, give it time.

    Resist temptation for further improvements.
     
  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I actually like it better!
     
  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I agree. Time will tone.
     
  7. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    oh yeah, nice cleaning job bing.
     
  8. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Nice job JW. I too have a lemon juice cleaning success story with my Carolingian denier of Emperor Louis the Pious (struck in Venice):

    Before:
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    After:
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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I have no idea, but the tooth brush bristles and my hand turned black as I was cleaning. It wasn't the result of horn silver. You can still see bits of horn silver on the obverse.
    I am allowing it to dry in the open air for a couple of days, but I'm finished cleaning it.
     
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Hand and tooth brush black: My thoughts are that it may had been in or near a fire? Soot? Being a couple thousand years old... Just guessing.
     
  11. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    It looks better.
     
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  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Possibly. But the black didn't just come off easily. It took several soakings and brushings.
     
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  13. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Nice job Bing.

    Here is one I took on a few years ago. I don't ever attempt much in terms of cleaning. I simply don't have the skills (or patience) that these coins deserve.

    This coin was sold to me as a limes denarius from poor dealer images. The price was cheap and I suspected he was wrong as a eastern limes would be a real oddity so decided to buy it. With the coin in hand I immediately believed it to be silver.

    RI 064lr img.jpg

    I broke my own rules about not attempting to clean coins and started on it with a vinegar solution, a toothbrush and a softened cocktail stick.

    I got it as far as this after a few hours. So definately silver.

    RI 064lr cln1 img.jpg

    Further work led to this, which is where I stopped.

    RI 064lr cln2 img.jpg

    Martin
     
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  14. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Bing-- great job cleaning that thing! It is vastly improved :)
     
  15. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I agree with everyone else - good decision and good job!
     
  16. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I think you did a great job with that coin. I have two coins I'm considering cleaning but I'm going to wait until I can get good pictures so I can ask the board if I should proceed and what the best method would be...
     
  17. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Like everyone else, Bing (V.K. and Martin), I think that your attempts at a light, safe cleaning paid off significantly---definitely a vast improvement!!!

    Obviously, a lemon and/or vinegar solution and a SOFT brush was the proper way to 'clean' those coins.
     
  18. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Not bad, big brother ... I didn't know that you were a "cleaner" ...

    Ummm, and you chose lemon juice because it's a mild acid, or because it was handy in the fridge? ... why not vinegar? (it's also pretty handy)

    NOTE: lemon juice contains Citric acid, vinegar contains Acetic acid (I have zero-clue which is better for coins?)

    Hey, a bunch of you always claim that olive oil is the proper way to go!! ... and again, I'm no coin-cleaner, but I am pretty good at making Greek Salads (and you dudes are definitely on the right track!!)


    ;)

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    .... mmmmm, please keep me posted on your next cleaning adventure, okay?
     
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  19. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Steve raises an interesting point....By nature I am a bit 'incremental' so I tend to first use distilled water, boiling the coin a few times and then rub it off with a coarse cloth and THEN proceed to olive oil and lemon juice or vinegar water solution. This is the cue for you 'scientists out there to jump in.

    I wonder in what time frame that will be? I refer to 'natural' toning rather than several 'artificial' methods that seem to be available.
     
  20. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    It depends on where you live. If I leave a silver coin out on the table, it tones considerably faster than would a coin of a collector living in, say, Estes Park, Colorado. My air is humid, salty, and contains Saharan dust and volcanic ash-- Quite a corrosive paste! Even stainless steel 304 fairly rapidly corrodes where I live :(.
     
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  21. WDF

    WDF Its all about history

    I think they all look better. Would you clean bronze the same way or does it react different with these acids?
    Nicely done Bing!
     
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