Alright JA, let's get organized, dammit.

that's a nice mauryan JA!

the "bubble penny" is interesting as well.

i have a couple sets of the 2009 cents as well i just pulled out of circulation. every time i see one in my change in good shape, I nab it.

 

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Post it on the error forum and ask if it's an error and what's it worth. If you make it sound like you think you have a small fortune you get a good laugh out of the responses. BTW Your organizational skills need a wee bit of work laddie.

 

These two were easy, wins from CNG 357. I already had them posted at FORVM, just needed slips with complete attributions...



JUDAEA, Tiberias. Hadrian. AD 117-138
Æ22, 9.18 g, 12h; Dated CY 101 (AD 119/20).
Obv.: AYT TPA AΔPIANW KAIC CEB; Laureate head right, with slight drapery.
Rev.: TIBER KΛAVΔ; Female figure (Fortuna?) standing left, with foot on prow, holding bust and scepter; L-AP (date) across field.
Reference: Kindler, Tiberias 11; Rosenberger 13; SNG ANS 1114.
Notes: CNG 357 Lot 330, 8/12/15

SYRIA, Coele-Syria. Heliopolis. Gallienus. AD 253-268
Æ21, 8.24 g, 6h
Obv.: IMP CAES P LIC GALLIENIVS avg; Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right.
Rev.: COL IVL AVG FEL; Caduceus between crossed cornucopias // HEL
Reference: Sawaya – (D110/R280 [unlisted die combination]).
Notes: CNG 357 Lot 270, 8/12/15

 

You ain't just whistlin' Dixie!

 

You don't find them in change much, at least not in my neighborhood. But the ones in circulation are copper-plated zinc, and they're going to rot. What you want are the ones that came in the 2009 mint sets - they're solid bronze.

 

Keep it up JA.

 

Aidan, you're a YN right? Here's a decent coin you can have if you want it, just PM me your address. Constantine I VICTORIA LAETAE type, Siscia mint. Reverse is a little rough but it's all there, obverse is great, with military bust...

 

I have to wonder if fifty years from now it will hard to find the plated coins. If history doubles back on itself and people start collecting from circulation again the way we did 60 years ago, you won't be able to assemble a set of Lincoln Memorial cents for the lack of 1982 and later coins in presentable condition. We still get coins from the 59-82 span that look presentable but plated go straight from shiny to ugly in a very short time. I suspect that it costs the government as much to keep plated coins in circulation as it would to top off the supply of a solid alloy coin (need to research what alloy would cost less than a cent). Of course if anyone had sense, they would stop making everything under a dime and force states to round off their tax charts (or even to require taxes be included in prices so the need for coins smaller than will buy anything would disappear.

A few years back there was controversy when a supposedly complete US collection was claimed but it's owner (Eliasberg) used proofs for the Philadelphia coins and some did not accept them as proper coins for completeness so his set was said to lack many coins that could be found for face value. I suspect that collectors of the future will require a plated coin, too, whether or not they accept the made for collecting versions. It all may be moot since coin collecting will probably fall off when only Senior Citizens remember what coins (or cash?) were. I know I am not typical but I do not accept a round made of the wrong money and sold from the mint at an inflated price necessary for collecting. If it weighs 5 ounces and is made of silver how can we call it a quarter? How can we call it a coin?

 

I wholeheartedly agree, but since the '09 cents were, in my opinion, some of the most artistically well-made recent issues, whose designs were intended for circulation on the plated coins, I made an exception. I'd like to enjoy them in my collection without worrying about their falling into decrepitude if I forget to turn on the air conditioner.

 

Don't you have other bronze coins? Like the ones that have been around for 2000 years, give or take, that look better than our freshly minted pennies?

 

Yes, of course, but I do collect some modern, and I wanted the set of 2009 cents. They really are beautifully designed, harkening back to the classical style of early commems.

 

The next three coins were posted in my LRB thread, but here they are fully attributed, which took a little sleuthing as they are unofficial. Attributions check, database check, FORVM check, slips check. They come from Rick Morton's Capitoline Collection. The last step for these is to send them to Lech S. for inclusion in Not In RIC.



Constantine I, AD 306-337
AE Follis, 18mm, 2.8g, 11h; unofficial, but with Ticinium mint mark, c. AD 321.
Obv.: CONSTAN-TINVS AV; Leaureate head right.
Rev.: CAEMSARVM NOSTRVM; VOT X in wreath // TT
Notes: Obverse of Constantine I, reverse of Constantine II/Crispus. Notice the botched spelling of CAESARVM NOSTRORVM. Ticinium didn't issue coins with this reverse legend, although other mints did. Ex-Rick Morton, Capitoline Collection.




Constantine II as Caesar, AD 317-337
AE Follis, 17mm, 2.9g, 6h; unofficial but with Trier mint mark, c. AD 324.
Obv.: CONSTANTINVS IVN NO C; Laureate head right.
Rev.: DN CONSTANTINI MAX A; VOT XX within wreath // PTR.
Notes: Obverse of RIC VII Trier 459, reverse of same, 324. Since both types were minted in AD 324, it's possible that dies were confused, but Curtis Clay suggests the coin is unofficial because of the misspellings, despite the good style. Ex-Rick Morton, Capitoline Collection.




Licinius I, AD 398-324
AE Follis, 18mm, 2.1g, 3h; unofficial but with Arles mint mark, c. AD 319.
Obv.: DN LICI-NIVS AVG;Laureate head right, cuirassed, with spear over left shoulder.
Rev.: IOVI CONSERVATORI AVG; Emperor holding thunderbolt and scepter, riding on eagle // TAR-L
Notes: Wholly barbarous in style. The engraver copied a coin with bust RIC VII G2 in the same orientation on the die as on the coin, rendering a horizontally-flipped version of G2. Notice that he also ran out of room in exergue for the mint mark and placed the L next to the end of the reverse legend. Ex-Rick Morton, Capitoline Collection.

 

You do have some beautiful ancients.

 

Here's a coin I bought from Nick Molinari over at FORVM some months ago. I simply liked how it looked, and tossed it into the box for future research.

This is a blanca (1/2 maravedi, or the smallest bronze denomination) of Philip II of Spain, 1556-1581. The castle is the symbol of Castile. Both sides of the coin have a cross with two crossbeams, described as a patriarchal cross.

There is part of a C in the right obverse field, for Cuenca mint. (The other choices are B for Burgos, V for Corunna, F for Granada - and confusingly also for Valladolid which also used A, D for Segovia and MT or TM for Toledo.) So it has to be Cuenca. The symbol in the right reverse field is described as a chalice.

The king's monogram is particularly interesting, a combination of P, H, I, and L sharing elements, with V and S entwined - so in fact, all the letters of his name are included. I didn't know anything about this coin when I bought it, but it seems to be in an unusually high grade for the type. I found many, many very ratty ones.



Philip II of Spain, AD 1556-1582
AE Blanca (1/2 maravedi), 14mm, 1.1g, 8h; Cuenca mint, 1556-1576.
Obv.: Castle (symbol of Castile); in left field, patriarchal cross; in right field C (Cuenca mint mark).
Rev.: Crowned monogram of king (PHIL sharing elements, VS entwined); in left field, patriarchal cross; in right field, chalice with two small crosses.
Reference: to be determined.
Notes: ex-Nick Molinari.

 

Here are two slabs that are about to get bashed up. The only reason I have these coins in slabs is because a dealer at a show offered them to me for five bucks apiece. He must have made good profits elsewhere that day. I know the coins themselves probably aren't worth more than $5 apiece, but the slabbing thing costs money, and somebody somewhere lost some scratch on this plastic.

Anyway, I do like US type coins. Would you guys ostracize me if I bought a 20th-century US type album and stuck coins in it?

 

I wouldn't but on these 2 coins I'd be tempted. Like you said, it cost more to slab them than what you paid. They're worth more in the slabs than out. Why would you break them out of a MS-66 graded slab to put in a folder? Are you really trying to build that high of a grade type set?

 

Well, I don't really care about the value of the coins in terms of resale, and I hate slabs - big clunky, awful pieces of plastic. That's just my preference - I certainly don't disparage anyone for collecting coins in slabs, especially valuable coins. These are not valuable.

 

Eh...looking through sold lots on eBay, maybe I'm better off unloading them. They're nothing special, but I could buy a few respectable ancients with the proceeds.

Edit: yeah, on second thought, you're right @Collecting Nut - off to eBay they go.

 

Favorite one you've posted so far!

 

That'd be awesome, JA => like most of us, I'm sure we still have some skeletons in our closets!!?