Fingerprints On A Coin

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by chrismessier, May 5, 2007.

  1. chrismessier

    chrismessier New Member

    What can you expect in terms of grading from a pcgs or ngc if you have a coin with a fingerprint on them? ? I bought a washington smoothie edge error from someone on ebay and the coin is in excellent shape except for a visible fingerprint on the obverse which probably covers about 1/4 of the obverse. The coin is definitely UNC, but the bozo handled it with his fingers and therefore left a print on the coin. Without the fingerprint I would expect the coin to grade a 66, but with the print I have no idea since I have only sent about 20 coins to grading services and never any with fingerprints. Please post a reply only if you really know what I could expect in terms of a downgrade if there even would be a downgrade. Thanks
     
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  3. chrismessier

    chrismessier New Member

    Also, is there anyway to remove fingerprints

    from a coin without damaging the coin itself?
     
  4. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Since you state that the fingerprint covers 1/4+ of the coin I would say that the coin would grade MS64 or lower.

    There is really no proven way to remove a print....some say that Acetone will remove a print...but myself and others hold to belief that the print while it may go away for a time will come back at a later date and might be much worse.

    Speedy
     
  5. hamman88

    hamman88 Spare some change, sir?

    That's why you sell it fast!
     
  6. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    the print is literally a touch of death to great coins
     
  7. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I don't think that is a good honest thing to do---and it really isn't a good think to do and then pass it off to a dealer without telling him about the history.

    Speedy
     
  8. grizz

    grizz numismatist

    of course it's best to handle coins with cotton gloves. the fact of the matter is the tpg's don't bother using gloves half the time, otherwise how would you explain the slabs for sale with fresh prints on them?
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Half the time ? - they don't ever use gloves.
     
  10. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    The way I understand it, fingerprints aren't wear, but they are distracting, like bag marks, and as such they can keep a BU coin out of gem, or a gem coin from going up the ladder.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No they are not wear, but they can and will eat right into the metal of the coin.
     
  12. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    Show me one like that. I love the positive upbeat messages here!

    Ruben
     
  13. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Yeah, I forgot about that. They're contaminants (unlike a bag mark).
     
  14. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I would show you a photo of a nice BU Ike Dollar that was still sealed in the mint packing with a nice large fingerprint on the face....but I sold it ;) It happens...

    Speedy
     
  15. Philly Dog

    Philly Dog Coin Collector

    I bet there is plenty of DNA on coins :goofer:
     
  16. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I have an NGC slabbed 1909 VDB Lincoln in MS-65 Red with a visible fingerprint on the reverse.

    HTH
     
  17. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    Some coins probably have tiny amounts of blood in the details, so yes...

    400th post !
     
  18. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

    At least the perpetrator can easily be identified...
     
  19. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    I guess fingerprints don't bother circulated coins.

    :)
     
  20. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member

    100% cotton shirttails.
     
  21. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    That's a bad idea, you will scratch the surface of the coin and ruin the grade. By the way...how many year+ old threads are you going to bump? I have seen several today.
     
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