ABUSE OF THE TERM "MD": A WARNING

Larry's coin is both. I'm talking about those cents, they're both strike doubling.

 

Log in or Sign up to hide this ad.

A little off the topic but related in a way. When people think they found a Doubled Die but make up new & funny descriptions such as the following wrong terminology -

Double Die - Classic
Double Dye - Coins are printed now?
Double Died - I think the coin just died! Twice!

 

Don't forget "Doubled Eye"

 

Thanks Jay! It sure is ddr#2- class -2 doubling. Messydesk why dont you post some examples of what your talking about?They say a picture is worth a thousand words.

 

did you say doubled eye?I've got one of those LOL.

 

No, the bottom is 1983P-1DR-002. I know it well as I have been looking for it a couple of years.

http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1983&die_id=1983p1dr002&die_state=mds

 

These are better pictures. I just called the coin posted as I saw it in those pictures. Let's see that die crack marker.

 

Very interesting example, and very informative. To elaborate a little: the flat, shelf-like ghost image on the vertical stand and top of the loop (on the inside) is the machine doubling. Notice that it is flat and shiny. Notice that it does not show a split serif (most noticeable at the top left of the D, the little "prong" is completely attached).

The true doubling shows on the bottom of the loop (on the outside). Notice how it is fully rounded, and appears just like the original impression (just shifted slightly). Notice that this *does* show a split serif, at the bottom left of the D. See the little "notching" there in the corner?

These are two really quick and easy ways to tell machine doubling versus die doubling.

 

I thought MD meant "Me Doctor"

 

All of these years I thought folks were saying they were from Maryland! LOL! (MD)

 

Colorized.

 

Here are a couple of examples that were labeled "overstruck"; not so. Proper attribution by Alan Herbert. Registered as OC-4889(Denmark) and OC-4888
(U.S. 5cents)
==


== I forget but 'think' this was labeled as "shifted die" or something else
Attribution by Alan Herbert. Registered as OC-4890 77/77 C-01

 

The example above on the 1877-CC 25c is a repunched date--a completely different animal than a doubled die. During this period at US mints, the dies were first hubbed without dates. The dates were later added using a 4-digt punch and a small screw press. Sometimes the first impression was angled improperly, so the die was re-polished to remove some/most of the first impression, then a new date impression was made.