I have this coin that I got just because it is early, large and interesting. Now I've decided to sell it because it is not in any of my varied spheres of interest. The problem is that it should be KM 53.1 but the date is not listed in Krause or NGC. This coin type in NGC ranges from $275-950 in VF depending on rarity. So, do I have a counterfeit, an extreme rarity or something in between. Or am I just wrong about what it is? Thanks for any help.
This was the coin I was referring too https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ha...bant_antwerp_mint_1652_vf/374814/Default.aspx
I think you should send the coin in to a TPG, honestly. If it's the first known 1659, it could be worth a fair bit.
The coin exists. Care to guess where I first found it ? https://www.cointalk.com/threads/trivia-a-thaler-you-may-not-know-exists.190388/ You will also find several examples having been sold here - http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=1659 patagon&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1¤cy=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=
I have no knowledge specific to this coin, but generally speaking...sometimes digits are inverted on dies. If that's even possible in this case, a 1656 erroneously dated "1659" would stand out if no coins were dated for that year...
As I said the coin does exist, it's not an inverted date. Delmonte's, Silver Benelux was published in 1967 and the coin, 1659, is listed there as having 2 varieties, Del. 293 and Del. 295. They were minted in Brabrant by the way. And there are other books published long before Delmonte that list the coin. Just because NGC and Krause don't list it, doesn't mean a coin doesn't exist.
Exactly! I've spent a lot of time trolling NGC and the catalogues for certain coins very similar to these mentioned in the post and have not been able to find it until I came across acsearch.
Just tossing that out there--I stand corrected. I have also noticed that NGC/Krause doesn't list everything.
Krause isn't intended to list everything. While it would seem like they would list all dates of the things that they do include, Krause is intended to be more of a generalist catalog. It's like the Red Book for world coins. If you want more details, or a complete listing, always consult the specialist references.
Thanks, good info. That's a reference book that I don't have and hadn't even heard of. Always something good to learn here.
