Another Daniel Carr token for me

Why not?... it is made from a real coin.

 

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I've noticed a lot of people that wear "Big boy pants" when they are talking into a white box on a computer screen ..

It's what they say to face to face where the pants generally start to droop

 

You haven't met me then

 

Ohhhh how cuuuuuute

 

And there are just as many that have no problem dealing with anything face to face. You just never know who is behind that keyboard.

 

True that my friend!!
Well spoken ..

 

That's why I still don't understand why the Government is still confiscating my dealer's $100 notes with dates of issue that never existed in the first place. That'd be Guido, of Guido's Rare Coins, Currency, Furs, Jewelry, Electronics, and Things That Fell Off Trains When They Went Over Bumps. Find him at Augostino's, Elmwood Park, intersection of Harlem and Grand, back table, most nights, and don't forget to ask about his layaway plans. It just seems like a double standard to me.

 

Big difference there. Here we are talking about coin designs that are no longer in general circulation and are relegated to collectors. If your example is talking about normal $100 bills with non-existent dates, that is a huge difference. New and old designs are still in use and hardly anyone squints their eyes to look at the year. These would be passing around in general circulation, which makes them both dangerous and illegal.

 

If people really care about the hobby there are plenty of actual counterfeits, made with intent to deceive and being described deceptively to potential buyers.

Direct your energy there, that is where the real threat to the hobby is.

I see such fervent effort thrown towards these threads that it seems some of you care more about partaking in drama than anything else. This is the type of thing that keeps those fake reality tv shows going and it's sad and shameful to see some members on this forum devolve to that lowest of the low level.

 

Here is another one of the Lesher tokens from my collection created by DC... He was reluctant at first, but agreed to do it as long as the commemorative date was added based on how the original series token read.. J. H. "Doc" Holliday one of the true legends of the West and his greatest movie portrayal by Val Kilmer in Tombstone.. "Why Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave"

J.H.Holliday
Dentist

 

So it is legal for me to print some 1935 $500 and $1,000 bills in my garage?

 

Not the same thing, and you know it. They are being sold as tokens, and not as anything that would circulate, or be used to deceive. Intent is the whole ball game. Go ahead and print whatever you want for your own use.

 

You're addressing multiple issues all relating to whether Dan is legal. I addressed one issue, whether a fictitious date means he's legal. It doesn't. Your issues have been addressed in these forums in multiple threads in more exhaustive detail than I care to recall, much less to repeat. In a nut, Dan isn't harming anybody, and the prosecutors are giving him a pass for it.

That's the bottom line. You don't have to agree, I'm OK with that. What I'm not OK with is with the ones coming on here who think they're tough as a nickel steak simply because they have but a speaking acquaintanceship with where these issues have already gone and as such freak at the slightest suggestion they don't have a clue. My tolerance is low for that, I'll admit.

 

You just don't seem to get it. The difference between the two scenarios is HUGE.

Your scenario:
Take a blank piece of paper and print a "1935" $100, $500, or $1000 bill facsimile on it. You've just created something that appears to be legal tender, but isn't, and never was. This scenario amounts to currency counterfeiting.

A paper money analogy to what I do would be:
Take a GENUINE series 1934 $100, $500, or $1000 bill and print a "1935" date over it and sell it as a novelty item. No new apparent legal tender is created here. This scenario amounts to defacing of legal tender, which is legal so long as it is not done for fraudulent purposes.

 

And we know it's a GENUINE 1934 because the guy who printed the 1935 said it was and he's a nice guy so it must be true. Are you beginning to get the idea, now?

 

Yeah but Eddie....the guys that print the paper tend to print a suitcase full, and for the sole purpose of deception. Dan is not trying to deceive anyone.......

 

..So as long as somebody don't print more than 2 dozen 1935 $1000 bills then it is legal??

 

I know, Ken. And he's a good guy. And those other guys are wise guys. But justice is blind.