UGH!! Lets say that I want my first ancient coin...

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by $ignofthedollar, Sep 24, 2015.

  1. $ignofthedollar

    $ignofthedollar Well-Known Member

    I know absolutely NOTHING about them...my wife and I really enjoyed the Spartacus series.....I want a coin that would have been during his time and that I could tell my kid that he could have actually have held this coin!!
    What would I buy?




    Have you ever seen such a noob?? Yes I know.o_O
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Welcome to ancients! Bet you can't eat just one :D

    I haven't seen the movie, but apparently Spartacus was of Thracian origin, born 111 BCE, died 71 BCE. There are oodles of choices. You could go with a Roman Republic coin from around that time. Some types even show gladiators in combat. I'll look for some specific examples and post them here :)
     
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  5. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

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  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    ^^^ I was just looking for an example of that one :)

    Here are all of the currently-offered examples on Vcoins.
     
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  7. A cool, affordable example from around that time would be a Thasos Tetradrachm. (Thasos was under Thracian rule during Spartacus' life.) The following type, typically described as being struck 1st-2nd Centuries BC or more accurately, "after 148 BC," can be ideal. They are large; around 30 mm wide and 16.5-17 grams. However, I would recommend you purchase an example from a reliable dealer; as there are several thousand counterfeits, floating about.
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    Thasos, Thrace AR Tetradrachm. After 148 BC. Head of Dionysos right wreathed with ivy leaves / ΗΡΑΚΛΕΟΥΣ ΣΩΤΗΡΟΣ ΘΑΣΙΩΝ, nude Herakles standing left, holding club & lion skin, MH monogram

    -Michael
     
  8. $ignofthedollar

    $ignofthedollar Well-Known Member

    AND HERE I GO AGAIN....
     
  9. doucet

    doucet Well-Known Member

  10. My example. The Vcoin price may be a bit high. I paid $150 +/- $10 last year.
    Minucius Thermus Denarius.png

    During your perusal, before making the purchase, maybe PM one of the regulars on here to ask for advice about price. Unfortunately, sometimes when links are posted publicly, they get sniped. You can also search auction results here and here.
     
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  11. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    me and mrs. chrsmat71 watched and enjoyed the spartacus series as well. i picked up this coin a bit before, but showed the wife while we were watching the show, minted in rome about the time of the events depicted on the mini-series (79 AD). i posted mine in ENG republican thread today, picked it up for about 100 dollars. here are some on vcoins..

    http://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.asp...alse&Unassigned=False&searchOrderBy=price_asc
     
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Coins in this period were issued by moneyers serving a year in this minor office on the way to bigger things. Each selected his own design. If there is a name from the movie that happens to be from the same family as one of these officials, you might like one of them. These various coins were issued in varying numbers and some sell for more today than others. The Thermus is popular and not the cheapest. Below I show others from the last decade of Sparticus' life. Which you find at 'your price' and which you prefer is not something we can predict.

    Do be careful, it is hard to have 'just one'.
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  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I can't add anything to what has already been said. Try buying one. If nothing else, you will have a conversation piece and something to share with your children. But I'll bet you won't stop at one.
     
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  14. I have two examples at hand,similar to Doug's.
    C. Annius and L. Fabius (primitive photo taking skills :()
    C.ANNIUS AND L.FABIUS HISPANIENSIS DENARIUS.png
    *but it has a lizard and winged caduceus :)

    A recently acquired Ti Claudius Nero, with CNG photo in tow:
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    I'd trade Doug in a heartbeat for his example; though he may receive the short end of that deal. I'm a sucker for toned coins. What's the significance of the Numerals/Characters above the exergue? Mine: XXI. Doug's: A*IIII

    -Michael
     
  15. You can get a silver denarius of the Roman republic around the time Spartacus lived (90-70 B.C ish online, such as ebay, vcoins, etc. or at a coin store, or a coin show. The cheap ones(damaged, worn, or just common) can be bought for less then 50 dollars. I recently bought a Mn. Fontieus denarius made a decade before Spartacus for 25 dollars.
     
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  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Some issues were made from numbered dies and not all used the same way of 'numbering'. Sometimes it was just a straight numeral like XXI; some were grouped in series mixing a letter and a number. Banti, Corpvs Nvmmorvm Romanorvm (9 volumes of photos shows the plain series up to CLX (160) and the A series up to A.CXXV (125) so there are at least 285 die sets used for the coins. The other coin here used what we call 'minor types' or 'control marks' rather than numbers. Michael's lizard is cuter than my carnix.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=car...X&ved=0CC0QsARqFQoTCMP3j-TUkcgCFcpXPgod35YBwQ
    Republican moneyers were allowed a lot of control on how they issued the coins for that year. Many coins did not number the die sets and some numbered dies individually showing that obverse dies lasted longer than reverse dies. Note the Piso below has obverse LXXVII (77) and reverse XCIV (94). L in that period was more like an arrow. BTW this is a more common type and should be cheaper since they exist in numbers exceeding that of collectors.
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    Few people try to get all of the minor variations in these. Some big public collections like the British Museum have most.
     
  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Spartacus, eh?

    Hey, I also have a few AR RR examples that would fit within this time frame ...

    => 85 BC through 78 BC


    Mn Fonteius Cf
    85 BC
    Vejovis & Genius on Goat
    mn font a.jpg mn font b.jpg


    C. Licinius Lf Macer
    84-83 BC
    Vejovis & Minerva in Quadriga
    c licinius a.jpg c licinius b.jpg


    M. Caecilius Q.f. Q.n. Metellus
    82-80 BC
    Apollo & Shield with Elephant

    M caecilius.jpg


    L. Papius
    79 BC
    Juno Sospita & Snake & Griifin with Dog

    L Papi.jpg


    M. Volteius M.f.
    78 BC
    Hercules & Erymanthian Boar

    Erymanthian boar.jpg


    ... man, ya gotta love dem animal coins, eh?

    :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Hi and welcome,

    Any ancient is interesting, and there are so many angles on collecting.
    I collect Hadrian, and sometimes i buy an impuls ancient, because here on ct, all sorts of ancients cone along here with interesting stories.

    Enjoy and there
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