Calpurnius Piso Frugi

My Belli Socii Social War AR coinage:

L Piso Frugi

RR AR Denarius
L Calpurnius Piso Frugi


RR AR Denarius
L Calpurnius Piso Frugi

LEGIONS of control marks and name variations on obv and rev; as well as whip, palm frond, or torch held by naked horseman on rev

 

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Also, other Belli Socii Social War AR coinage:


RR AR Quinarius
Q Titius 90 BCE - Winged Victory and Pegasos


RR AR Quinarius
M Porcius Cato 89 BCE - Young Bacchus and Seated Victory


RR AR Denarius
Q Titius 90 BCE - Winged Victory and Pegasos, ex Mat Baca collection

 

For those who do not know about them but have a lot of free cash:
The Social War also produced unofficial coins of the 'other side' which copied Republican issues.
See:
http://www.acsearch.info/search.htm...s=1&currency=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=

 

Nice!! => man, that's an awesome addition, Mat (congrats!!)

Eh-heh-heh ... ummm, I also have one of the Frugi-clan ...

Yah, I quickly read-up on this whole Fruginess and discovered that the lion's share of the literature claimed the L-Piso-Frugi was a bit much and that C. Piso L.F. Frugi was the real deal!!

=> the dude has a whip!!

... I'm just sayin' ...







... okay, fine ... I don't have an example of this L-Piso dude, so I decided to post my C-Piso example anyway (what? ... hey, it's not like there's a teacher's pet lurking in the reeds ready to judge me, right? .... right?)

Oh, and did I show ya this?




ooops sorry ... just jokes, Mat (your new coin is all that, my coin-friend!!)

=> sadly, I can't help myself!!

 

Way cool, Mikey! Agreed!

 

WOW! Fantastic pieces Doug. I think I'll buy a couple - NOT. But they are beautiful.

 

I have seen similar offerings before... Pricing was quite rich! Would love to have both sides of history!

 

I'd love one or two for all the same reasons, but that price means NO WAY....but stranger things have happened LOL

 

Who was the third moneyer who struck your coin….not an easy question! But an intriguing one. Coins were issued by both Caesar and Pompey’s supporters to support their cause, so the three-magistrate system was probably in chaos. I am aware of 8 Roman Republican coins issued in 49 BC by 10 moneyers, listed below:

Caesar was in Gaul:
1. Q. Sicinius, supporter of Pompey
2. Cn. Nerius (strikes as quaestor urbanus), supporter of Pompey
3. Mn Acilius Glabrio, believed to be possibly a lieutenant who served under Julius Caesar

Caesar is crossing the Rubicon:
4. C. Julius C.f. C.n. Caesar
5. C Coponius (praetor) and Q Sicinius (now strikes as moneyer in exile in the East, having fled Italy with Pompey)
6. L Cornelius Lentulus and C Claudius Marcellus (exiled consuls strike in support of Pompey)
7. Cn. Pompeius Cn.f. Sex.n. Magnus and Cn. Calpurnius Piso (Frugi?)
8. Cn. Pompeius Cn.f. Sex.n. Magnus and M. Terentius Varro

And there might be other moneyers that we are unaware of.

Who was the third moneyer at that time? Since L Cornelius Lentulus and C Claudius Marcellus were in exile, I think your guess - Pompey - is an excellent choice!

I must admit that I took some of this info from Wikipedia, and I sometimes doubt the accuracy of their data…but I wanted to respond to this thread without going to a research library! Thanks Mikey Zee; a very interesting question

 

As supporters of Pompey, Lentulus and Marcellus opposed Caesar, and had fled to Sicily, where they issued coins in support of Pompey. I would assume Pompey as the third moneyer.

 

Very intriguing and interesting follow-up...I must admit these 'small' issues always fascinate me and add so much more 'history' to a coin, making them seem much more than a collectible 'metal relic' but a 'living' piece of history------then the events and people envolved become so much easier to envision and truly appreciate.

 

I agree. The more 'history' I have on a coin and the time period it was minted, the less likely I am to ever sell the coin...regardless of condition.

 

Another cool addition Mat.