help ID this coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by rrdenarius, Sep 16, 2015.

  1. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    A coin club friend assumes I know more about ancients than I really do. Can anyone identify this coin? It weighs 9.15 grams and is 27 mm in diameter. The pics are not my best, but I think the features show.

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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    The reverse reminds me of coins from Gela, sicily, but I don't recognize the obverse.
     
  4. GSDykes

    GSDykes Well-Known Member

    Slowly piece by piece -- twin busts, obverse -- reverse chariot (vid), 2 horse style.
     
  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Hmm, that's a toughie. My first thought is that it may not be ancient-- maybe it is a fantasy piece. Something about the style looks off.

    I searched CNG's archives, acsearch, and Wildwinds (although the latter not thoroughly) for "AE, jugate busts left" and didn't find anything close.

    Jugate busts are relatively uncommon; left-facing busts even more so. The veiled bust could be Hera. When appearing jugate, she is usually paired with Zeus but the second figure is not bearded and just doesn't look like Zeus. Maybe the veiled figure is a queen? The busts somewhat resemble Seleukid jugate busts although I haven't found any facing left and the Seleukid reverses are typically littered with legends. Your coin appears to be anepigraphic.

    At first I thought your coin's reverse was a "foundation scene" with founder plowing left, but upon closer inspection it looks like a biga.
     
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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    My first impression is that it is a modern fantasy.
     
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  7. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    My first thought was: "easy, nabatean...." but that reverse I have never seen on them before. So I would be inclined to think of a modern fantasy. It looks like there is a cast seem on the edge of the exergue. :/
     
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  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    This.
     
  9. Daniel Jones

    Daniel Jones Well-Known Member

    I wonder if it could be a Celtic coin-Celtic era.
     
  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Man, I hope that it's real => it's certainly pretty
     
  11. Daniel Jones

    Daniel Jones Well-Known Member

    This is surprising no one here has been able to identify this item yet. I expected some one could have figured it out by now.
     
  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    The consensus seems to be that it is a modern fantasy made to resemble an ancient coin.
     
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  13. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The only coin this resembles (that I know of) is a certain bronze of the Gaulish Remi tribe. But that type has triple jugate busts with biga left, and the style is completely different. I say modern fantasy piece.
     
  14. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    My first thought was modern cast fake, but my friend said, "No it is a real coin". My second thought was Celtic intimating something or an Eastern Greek coin (Scythian, Bactria, ...). The features are rounded and look cast. The desert patina sctatches off with my thumbnail. There are marks that could be grinding on the edge (should have seen those first). The obverse has two diadem heads, left. The reverse has a biga driven by a person with a couple of dots and a line where Victory or Cupid would be. In Ex is a squiggly line. I see no writing. The reverse horse is a bit like the Scythian coin below. http://www.anythinganywhere.com/commerce/coins/coinpics/indi-scyth.htm indi-chores-ma1879-5.jpg
     
  15. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    thanks for everyone's thoughts
     
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