I haven't reported yet. It looks like a sand cased coin to me especially the reverse on the "ONE". Check it out guys to see what you thank. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1846-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-AU-/281799243765?hash=item419c8b37f5 And the same seller has this Half Dollar up to. http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEATED-LIBERTY-HALF-DOLLAR-1864-s-/281799241260?hash=item419c8b2e2c
After contacting the owner and they disagreed. They said they were real. So I went ahead and reported both coins to Ebay. The last two that I reported got pulled. So someone else will confirm maybe we can get these scum bags shut down.
This is one of the nicer response' I got from this seller. If we don't stand up to these scammers they will keep it up. ___________________________________________________________________ catnrat254: "You know what you tried to give me s**t on a gold coin too!! I have never sold anything that was not real... Get a job and quit following my auctions. I never did anything to you so stop harassing me." ___________________________________________________________________ I never saw his fake gold coin. This seller must have tried to sell a fake gold coin before.
If you ever shot a coin in bright sunlight or a medium-large spotlight, you'd be changing your tune on the apparent depth of the devices. The 1846 is consistent with others on record, to include the irregularities on the lower left loop of the 8, the spindly 4 with the trumpet serif, and perhaps most importantly the die crack starting above the D and running through STA. Die cracks are not easy to counterfeit, or sandcast. The 1864-S is consistent with WB-101, the last use of the Large S and Type One reverse. To include the fact that the mint mark is at lesser relief than the surrounding devices. The noticeably thicker serifs on the 1 than the 4 are also typical. This, of course, does not prove originality. My most important point here is, if you're going to joust with the scammers on Ebay, load the gun before you pull the trigger. A strong circumstantial case can be made for the genuine status of both of these coins, by simply knowing what they should look like. Here with a little issue-specific knowledge you can instantly exclude any counterfeit which wasn't created from an original coin, at least. Took me about 10 minutes to learn all that stuff above - no, I didn't know it beforehand - by checking the Seated Half book at DLRC, and looking at a few coins on Heritage. And if you're going to judge based on features which can be directly attributed to the imaging process, you have to know the imaging process. Learning that took me a decade. If you're gonna do this, be right. I don't know if there's enough evidence here to go off and try to get auctions pulled. Frankly, I think they're real, and understand the seller's anger.
Did you look at the reverse on the dollar. The sloppy "O" and "D" and the obvious lack of sharpness in the lettering and devices. Both coins is a sand cased fake. One would be a fool to plunk down good money these fakes.
Did you see the reverse on the dollar. The "O" and the "D" and the lettering and the device aren't sharp this is a poor sand cased fake. And the Half looks like it just came out of the mold. It wasn't even dusted off. One would be a fool to put down good money for this. Here is a chance to get an AU Seated Dollar cheap.
Check out these Half Dollar of the same date and mint then find one like the one in question. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...864+S+Seated+Liberty+Half+Dollar&_sacat=11970 And do the same for the dollar same date. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...&_nkw=1846+Seated+Liberty+Dollar&_sacat=11977 These coin just don't look real.
