Ptolemy IV Mixed Pair...

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Alegandron, Aug 12, 2015.

  1. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Wow A, those are some really nice coins, color any details Sweet!!! :)

    Just want to add my two cents on removal of a coin from a slab, i have broken out to many to count. First lay a towel or two down on a table (so if the coin falls out it won't go flying). put on some good gloves. get two pairs of pliers or channel locks. put one on top right and one bottom left. put a towel over the top. push forward top right, pull back bottom left. go till you hear pop!! works well, no hitting or hurting the coin.:)

    I love these big boys too!! i was going to show mine but when i was making two into one picture i cut off part of the Eagle, will have to do a retake.:oops: very nice coin!!
    Went back and tried again. I'm calling it larger than SteveX's haha. 41mm x 71g.
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Wow, 2g over mine...these are big monsters! Thanks for the slab breaking tip! I asked so taht I can see the differing ways to free the coins...yours looks pretty good too. I also like @TIF 's idea with the screwdriver twist - had already thought of it, but was good to hear she uses it successfully. I also thought of putting in a vice, and use a hacksaw to weaken the sonic-welds (I have run a few manufacturing companies), not cut all the way through, then use a screwdriver like TIF does.
     
  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL, reason I made the comment "Wow, 2 g over mine..." 2g is a weight of MANY A Coin out there!!!
     
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  5. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Be sure not to drop in on your foot when you break it from the slab!:D
     
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  6. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Yeah, these things are just great to hold. Seeing pics of them are one thing, even seeing them in person is good, but taking it out of the flip and simply HOLDING them is how you must appreciate these things.

    On positive side effect for ancient Egyptians. Imagine you were a mugger but never knew if that lady had ten of these in her coin purse on the way to the market. I am guessing robberies were on the decline while these coins were in production. :)
     
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  7. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    That's a huge coin in an exceptional state of preservation. I hate to tell you that it's not a REAL Genghis Khan....

    It would be a lot smaller and far less impressive...I happen to have one to show;)

    Great Mongol Empire
    Ghazna, Afghanistan
    Khagan Chingiz (Temujin) Genghis Khan
    Billon Jital (AD 1206-1227) ; (AH 602-624)
    16 mm x 4.28 grams
    Obverse. Al-Nasir Ud-din Allah amir al-muminin
    Reverse. Adl Khaqan al-Azam (coin of the Great / Just Khan)
    Ref: Tye 329; SICA 9, 1008; Nyamaa 5; Album 1969
    Prov: ex. Dr. Alex Fishman. ACC.

    Gkhan.jpg
     
  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Now that is awesome! Thanks for that!
     
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  9. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    First thought is... where can I get one?! :D fantastic piece with the green, so much character!
     
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  10. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Ya, wish my friends came walking up with some cool Ptolemies...or something cool period. Guess I need new friends:(;)
     
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  11. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    how did i miss this?

    aleg...those coins are fantastic ptolemy coins. man, that obverse on the second giant one is just stunning.

    super pick ups sir!
     
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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    When my oldest daughter was about 2, she used to shed her clothes, RUN outside and scream NAKED, NEKKID, NEKKID!!!!
    I took everyone's advice and FREED the MONSTER from the Slab... It started screaming... NEKKID, NEKKID, NEKKID!!!

    I think you can see them a bit better now... :) Nekkid!
    Ptolemy IV Tet Obv - NEKKED.JPG Ptolemy IV Tet Rev - NEKKED.JPG

    When
     
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  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Beautiful!!
     
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  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thank you very much, Sir! I flipped between pics with and without the slab...wow, much better. And, I can keep the NGC label with their ID number and online pic, so all is good in my head!
     
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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Got my mind going here @Ancientnoob ! I did not like the Mongols because they destroyed and did not build. However, it was known that if you carried a writ by the Khans anywhere across the Empire you were completely safe. What was your Ghengis Khan coin's value during its use? Days wage? a US Quarter? 10 Euro? Curious...
     
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  16. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Well that's an interesting story Alegandron o_O
    Happy to see you freed it from its coffin!
     
  17. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Mongols have such a bad reputation, but you have to recognize the profound religious tolerance and comfort people lived in under the mongols. Under Kublai Khan, China reached all new heights of cultural, military and scientific excellence.

    As far as the value or buying power of the coin. I am not an expert in any regard, but silver was the money of the day - I'd assume this is a small fry.

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  18. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Afghanistan, Balkh
    AR Imperial Multi-Dirham (AD 1200-1220) (AH 596 - 617)
    31 mm x 7.45 grams
    Obverse: Al-Sultan in the center, Mohamed and additional inscriptions (al-Sultan al-azam... the rest unread) in the margins
    Reverse : Mohamed Bin Takesh in a monogram in the center, additional inscriptions (presumably mint and date) in the margins.
    Ref:MWOI 910.
    KwarzmC.jpg

    This rare type is poorly studied - the inscriptions were never read completely, and because this type is always very weakly struck, they are hard to read. Still, a very interesting and rare huge silver coin of this infamous ruler!
    Mohamed Khwarezmshah was the most famous and powerful of the rulers of Khwarezm, though he is most known for his downfall and the story of the great expansion of the Empire of Genghis Khan. In 1218, Genghis Khan sent some emissaries to the Shah, but when he executed the Mongol diplomats in defiance of the emerging great power, Genghis retaliated with a force of 200,000 men. In February 1220 the Mongolian army crossed the Syr Darya and launched the Mongol invasion of Central Asia. The Mongols stormed Bukhara, Samarkand, and the Khwarezmid capital Urgench. The Shah fled and died some weeks later on an island in the Caspian Sea.
    most-interesting-man-in-the-world-lg (1).jpg

     
  19. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Cool chunk of silver @Ancientnoob and I enjoyed the write up also.
     
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