I wish I could post something to show you, unfortunately since it comes from a well known book on the subject it is copyrighted material so I cannot. Suffice it to say that what I said in post #10, is true. That said, yes Buffs are well known for weak strikes. But there are date/mint combinations known for having a certain percentage of the mintage with full strikes. The two I mentioned above are merely the highest. Now you can argue the point and disagree, but there are recognized experts who say otherwise.