Today's the day...

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by FitzNigel, Aug 13, 2015.

  1. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    that I have officially out-lived Jesus! As such, here is the only coin I have issued in his lifetime: a Prutah struck under Pontius Pilate
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    It's in poor condition, but it was a cheap coin I could bring into my classroom and hopefully catch the interest of my students (and as always, forgive my poor photos - still working on a set-up).

    Anyway, if anyone else has some coins minted around 4BC To 27AD I'd like to see them!
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Happy birthday!

    Here's the other style of prutah issued under Pontius Pilate:

    PontiusPilatePrutah.jpg
     
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  4. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    Hey, Fitz...it isn´t a VF coin for sure, but you didn´t buy it for that. I´m guessing your students will love it! How many times do they get to touch something that old?
     
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

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    There are two types of Lepta issued under Pontius Pilate. The first is dated year 16 of Tiberius while the other which I don't have comes in years 17 (LIZ) and 18 (TIF's LIH). How these dates align with the life of Christ is not universally agreed upon. While the drooping barley/prow coins only come in year 16 (LIS at extreme lower right), I like having these letters on flan. Few of these have full legends so you have to decide what is acceptable/preferable when shopping. Mine loses all of the name Tiberius and the K of Caesar but has all of Julia and the KA of Caesar on the barley side. I suspect someone here owns one with the exact opposite centering.
     
  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Well Fitz, I have this Judean sweetie from 41-42 AD ... ummm, can it hangout with your coin?

    Judaea Herod Agrippa I AE Prutah
    41-42 AD
    Canopy & Three ears of grain

    Judaea Herod Agrippa AE Prutah b.jpg Judaea Herod Agrippa AE Prutah a.jpg

    :oops:
     
  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Happy Birthday!

    This one's not much to look at, but fits the time period.

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    JUDEAN KINGDOM, Herodian Dynasty
    HEROD ARCHELAUS

    AE Prutah
    1.43g, 14.7mmm
    Jerusalem mint, circa 4 BC - AD 6
    Hendin 1197
    O: Prow of galley facing left; HPW (for "Herod") around.
    R: EΘN (for "Ethnarch") in wreath.

    Notes:
    Herod Archelaus received the title of Ethnarch (national leader) of Samaria, Judea and Idumea from Augustus in Rome. Never secure in his rule, he presided over the notorious massacre of 3,000 Jewish worshippers at the Temple of Jerusalem during Passover and the crucifixion of more when Roman legions from Syria were called in to quell the ensuing riots.
    Jesus' Parable of the Minas in the Gospel of Luke (19:11-27) may refer to Herod Archelaus: "A nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom and then return, but his citizens hated him and sent a delegation after him, saying, 'We do not want this man to reign over us.'... 'But as for these enemies of mine,' [said the nobleman] 'who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.'"
     
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  8. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Happy Birthday!
    And many more returns!
    Here is my only coin that fits your time slot:
    Augustus Caesar AR Denarius
    Struck 4 BCE-2 CE
    Lugdunum mint
    image.jpg
     
  9. Daniel Jones

    Daniel Jones Well-Known Member

    Congratulations on your birthday, and surviving longer than Jesus. However, I am concerned about your health if you indeed have "SCURVY". Ha, ha! Sorry I have no coins from that era at this time to show you. I still don't even know enough about computers to figure out how to post images.
     
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  10. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Happy Birthday, Fitz!!!

    Regrettably, I no longer own a variety of biblical coins, but the time-frame you indicated also would include the 'Tribute Penny' attributable to Tiberius as mentioned in the Bible (to paraphrase- "Render unto Caesar what is Caesars and unto God what is God's.."....). Of course, it's not a 'penny', but a silver denarius----mine is a modest grade version:

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    And, I'm still having an 'issue' with setting up my 'gear' as well---so my photos are a bit poor...
     
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  11. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Happy Birthday Fitz, love the color of your new coin. still looks good for its age.;)

    My humble examples..
    Pontius Pilate AE Prutah
    Ar Doge, Prutah 005_opt (1).jpg

    Herod Agrippa l AE Prutah
    Ar Doge, Prutah 013_opt.jpg
     
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  12. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    Gorgeous coins guys! And so we're clear, today isn't my birthday. According to tradition, Jesus lived 33 1/3 years (probably tradition because those medieval Europeans love their symbolic numbers...). So, yesterday I was 33 1/3, today, I outlived Jesus (on his first tour of Earth anyway - I'm not counting the reunion tour...)
     
  13. Daniel Jones

    Daniel Jones Well-Known Member

    Your photos look nice to me.
     
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  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Happy Birthday with hopes of many more to come.

    Augustus 19.jpg
    AUGUSTUS
    Æ 31 Dupondius
    OBVERSE: PERMISSV CAESARIS AVGVSTI, bare head left
    REVERSE: COLONIA PATRICIA, aquila between legionary standards
    Colonia Patricia (Cordoba - Spain) 15-14 BC
    18g, 31 mm
    RPC 128, SNG Cop 464
     
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  15. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    happy birthday , happy smurf day
     
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  16. Happy Birthday. 2 of my concurrent coins from Jesus's first lifetime.
    Tiberius Denarii 14-37 AD

    Plain Legs
    Tiberius Denarius 2 60 percent.png
    3.57g
    18.72mm

    Ornate Legs
    Tiberius Denarius 1 60 percent.png
    3.64g
    18.90mm
     
  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, well here are a couple more of my 4 BC through 27 AD examples ...

    Augustus
    27 BC => 14 AD (good ol' Augustus fits into that box)

    Augustus AE As Celsa Bull.jpg
    Augustus Simpulum.jpg Augustus Elephant Sestertius.jpg




    augustus ax.jpg augustus bx.jpg


    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  18. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Oh, and good ol' Tiberius also fits within that time-frame ...

    => so here is a Tiberius dupondius and a sweet Tiberius counter-mark!!


    Tiberius

    14 - 37 AD

    Tiberius Emerita, Spain (AE Dupondius)
    Tiberius Emerita.jpg

    Tiberius Clunia, Spain (AE As)
    Tiberius Counterstamp.jpg

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  19. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    I like the counter-mark! What's the story behind that?
     
  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

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    TIBERIUS AE As

    Tiberius – Caesar 8-14 AD
    Tiberius – Augustus 14-37 AD
    Clunia, Spain
    Diameter: 28 MM
    Weight: 13.9 GRAMS
    Obverse: TI CAESAR AVG F AVGVSTVS IMP, laureate head right, countermark of bull rushing right on Tiberius' neck
    Reverse: L IVL RVF T CALD CON T POMP LON P IVL NEP IIII VIR, Bull facing left, CLVNIA above, countermark of eagle's head on bull
    Other: AB-839 … RPC-456

    These countermarks both date to the reign of Emperor Claudius, and are probably intended to validate the coin for continued circulation as Claudius engaged in a number of mint closures and monetary reforms (Seller’s comments)

    Ummm, there is also an entire thread about this coin, but I couldn't find it (*sigh*) ... too bad, because it has a few funny comments about the cow and it's test-tube baby, etc

    :rolleyes:
     
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